XFX 6600 GTS - My future looks bright.
April 13, 2008 11:54 am
I had it lingering around for months now, a shiny, powerful and beautiful looking XFX 6600 GTS. I did not plug it in yet, because, the old one, a Sapphire Radeon X600Pro did not perform all that bad and frankly, I was being conservative. I know that by plugging in a new graphics card, the world around me would change drastically. Just as with real life, virtual life is how you perceive the world around you, and as ‘touch’ and ’smell’ functionality is still disabled, ‘view’ is one of the most important. But the outlook for the next official client - the RC 1.20 - left me no choice.
Thanks to Veyron’s extremely handy gift (the 6600 GTS)* and some excellent Skype support by Loki Popinjay - mainly mental, telling me I would do OK and not ruin my entire system - I now have a kick-ass graphics card ‘inside’. And oh my, what does the work look shiny and bright!
I still have a lot of settings to trial-test, but in the short run, it did seem logical to let the graphics card in charge of decisions where it comes to anisotropic filtering (wiki explanation on this), and not pick ‘let application decide’. A test with the exact same graphics card and in-world settings (except for a minor shift in daytime):
And this is how ‘my’ virtual world looks now:

A guy that knows how to dress and make is own clothes! Yeey, for Chez!

Toying around with the Glow settings. (No lecture, please, Mr. Poultry)

Shinyness has never been this shiny before. Wow.

The Club Haze opening. 63 people, Woot!
* With this great gift, Mistress Veyron acquires the first (and probably only) week of Vint-ownership (see comments here). Details to be arranged in IM. ;)
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37 Responses to “XFX 6600 GTS - My future looks bright.”
Hah, looks nice. I got a budget GeForce 6200, which works perfectly as well - 10 frames per second with everything turned on and 64 meters of rendering. 15 if I turn off filtering. For some reason, it costs the same as a 5200, my previous (burnt) one. Good thing you changed in time, and not like me, when I was forced to… :-S Anyway, enjoy! And, may I ask how much was it? Just interested… :-} And, who’s that dude on Facebook who keeps buying you from me? O.o
(My graphics card exploded, and as a side-effect which happened on the first day of usage, my motherboard blew up. YAY. I switched power supplier as well, which could explain the blow-up. Fortunately, my computer assembler offered to replace it, free-of-charge (even though my warranty was expired since over 6 months ago) with a same-specs motherboard from a different manufacturer. Now it works awesome with everything :-D)
Glad the new card is treating you well!
Are you sure it’s anisotropy you’re playing with and not antialiasing? I’m running an 8800 ultra and notice no difference in the game with anisotropic filtering on or off, it’s as if SL disables the texture dithering anyways.
I’ve done several detailed write ups on this and actually now have SL running at 32x antialiasing.
Smiley, I don’t know. As I wrote, it was a gift (which I will probably pay dearly for *grins*). Customs did charge me 10 euro’s.
Miss Quinn: Yes, 100% sure. I found it strange myself too. I just went into performance ft. quality settings on the Nvidia settings. There I picked ‘anisotropic filtering’ and put it at ‘16x’ in stead of ‘toepassing-gestuurd’ (application decides). Besides that, I did not change _anything_ at all. It does say in the wikipedia article that ‘anisotropic filtering’ is responsible a bit for anti aliasing too, so maybe that is why?
If I find the time this evening, I’ll run the test again, but I am 100% sure that I did not change anything else.
Wow..huge difference! Since downloading the new client, I’ve had a few irritating issues as well. You’ve inspired me to overcome my own fear of putting a new graphics card in as well. I’m just a little fearful I’ll blow my computer up =/ As I have know idea what I’m doing.
wish me luck…and ty for the giving me the ummmph to finally bite the bullet…err graphics card.
*goes to read wiki now*
Getting the old one out, there is likely to be a ’switch/handle’ somewhere near the slot. Make sure to look for that first and don’t use just brute force! ;)
But good luck! Tell me when I need to cross my tail for you! ;)
@Vint: Ask Veyron then :-P And, it’s an Nvidia card, right? Stick with the big N (The 2nd big N, not the first, which is Nintendo :-P) , they’re much cheaper and better in my opinion. Look at 9800GTX for example: 128 cores of pure YUMMY. xD That’s processing Second Life 32 times. xD (SL requires at least 3 cores, but 4 is recommended.)
@Melodious: Mine blew up for NOT replacing it xD Seriously, how do “burnt graphics card, power supplier and motherboard” sound to you? ;-)
@Katarina: It doesn’t do anti-aliasing in normal 3D stuff, but in Second Life it does, as mostly everything is based on textures. Plus, Second Life has that Anti-Aliasing feature, which also works (somehow) if you tell him not to do so. Weird.
It can factor into antialiasing at times due to how it works, but anistotropy deals with texture dithering to maintain integrity across simulated distance, it’s an additive effect. Think depth of field minus the actual field.
Btw, for the record, it’s Mrs.
@Katarina: Oh, must be too late, but congrats! ‘^_^
@Smiley
That was an overheating issue from what you described. It’s a problem especially among radeons. In the geforce world, it tends to happen on the psu end.
2) It only effects sculpties that way, linden labs did not rewrite the way anisotropic filtering or mip mapping works on a fundamental level. There is a difference between texture and polygon aliasing.
@Katarina: True, and about that over-heating case, i’ve had the graphics card for 4 years, and it was dying anyway. (Would freeze every 10 seconds and “lag” the mouse [updating its visible location only every second]) I had to disable it and use basic Windows drivers, and eventually, it exploded. The same (sort of) happened with my Motherboard, which was 4 years old as well, and like the graphics card, was used heavily. In addition, my power supplier was OK actually, got confused a few minutes ago with that comment, and the only bug that required me to replace it was the fact it couldn’t handle both optical drives, so the DVD burner couldn’t read discs 2 out of 4 times, couldn’t start burning, would miss sectors, and would fail to close the disc after presumably “finishing” the burn process.
You have to be exceptionally concious of the power demands of hardware nowadays. Parts are placing more load on each rail across the board nowadays, and many people are finding out that a geforce 8800 series plus 500 watt psu lacking sufficient amperage == system on fire.
One of the reasons why when I ever upgrade anything, I go to my PC’s assembler company and have them connect it for me and notify me if anything’s wrong :-}
I just do it myself, it’s a 20 minute process that I can’t see paying for.
i want a new graphics card :( anyone wanna gift me one?
congrats though vint lol and wow you waited a while to plug that sucker in… i would have installed it the second i received it!
It’s an 8600GTS chip and since it is an XFX it’s overclocked a bit. But it is DirectX 10 capable, and it’s mucho faster than the old card. Of course, Vint has been aging this card…. So it’s no the latest hotness out there. It’s going to have the same visual quality of all of the 8000 and 9000 Nvidia chip, just varying in speed. I think that one has 32 engines in it.
It is always surprising how much of a difference just a video card change can make. It should even make regular SL’ing fast, as the CPU has to spend less time and work to render the display.
Now, let’s see here… When to play with Vint….
hmmm….
@Katarina: It comes free with any upgrade I buy from them, and I buy ALL upgrades from them. (They have killer prices, that are VERY low and much lower than retail. About 1/8 lower.)
Sorry to double-comment, but…
@Veyron: 9600 and 9800 have 128 cores :-D MUHAHAHAHAHAHAA! Like I said earlier, it’s like rendering Second Life 32 times! >:-D Hmm, could be the one graphics card that’ll survive “RenderDynamicReflections”…
@Smiley
I don’t see the context for the last directed post, elaborate?
The 9600 is half the card that the 8800 ultra is, but still has some nice upgrades over the gt and gts. The 9800 will be truly effective when everyone can run pci-e 2.0. Currently, I can build a quad core 3.0ghz machine with 3 pci-e 2.0 slots, capability for 1666mhz fsb, 5 sata adapters, a single new spec 8800 gt (not the greatest I know) and 4 gigs of ram for 1200, complete with psu capable of at least dual sli, burner, and 750 gb hd.
Yes, well, it was an extra card I had left over for Vint….
Oh, and my laptop has a 8800GTS in it - so there! :p
Sager?
@Katarina: “It comes free…” meant the installation of hardware they do. I’m a known customer too, got 4 computers off ‘em :-P Which is why they replaced my motherboard for free, even if it was burnt and even if the warranty expired. XP
And that’s an AWESOME computer… Intel do 3.0Ghz quad-core? FINALLY. I was expecting that so when I get my new computer, it’ll kick ass more than a martial arts master in a kung-fu movie. (Hah, that was improvised! :-P) I plan on something like 8600 or 8800, 4GB of RAM, 3.0Ghz quad-core, a 380GB (I think they do those, or was it 360GB?) hard drive, and one of the best motherboards they got [that fit the budget]. I have 4,000NIS (or 1,175US$ calculated by the low LOW rate of 3.5USD/1NIS) to spend on a new computer, and currently, I DON’T NEED A NEW ONE! :-D
Hmm, hope it gets to 57xx when I need one, I need a 32GB iPod Touch too. :-P
I wouldn’t be so quick to discount our currency. In order for that to be in effect, you’d actually have to convert that money and buy from an american vendor who is willing to ship to israel, then pay the appropriate shipping and import duties. In the end, you’d still probably save over buying natively. In europe, a system I can build here for approximately 800 USD sells for 900 euro, so it’s all relative. Currency devaluation only holds water if people actually adjust their prices to fit the prediction, just ask canada.
The current rating for the ILS is around 3.4, while the NIS sits at 4.3, both low average over 120 days. All ratings ILS/NIS:1USD
@Katarina: Wha? I simply converted the amount for local references, and ILS and NIS are the same. (ILS = Israeli Shequel ; NIS = New Israeli Shequel) :-P And, it’s at… *checks stocks site* 3.5940NIS/1USD.
There are actually two seperate valuations, and you need to take the 120 day average, because that is what it will exchange at. Stocks have nothing to do with exchange, that’s forex, and it’s where I do most of my trading.
Argh, let’s end this now:
A) The stocks side also has currency exchange: forex, or whatever you call it.
B) NIS and ILS ARE THE SAME. Check Wikipedia, Google, whatever you’d like. (Google: ILS - NIS) (Wikipedia: ILS - NIS - see where it says “New Israeli Shequel” and “Israeli New Shequel”? Click on those. They point to the same page, RIGHT?)
In addition, why would I be wrong when I check a local, Israeli site and know the economy of Israel?
Happy? :-P
P.S.: The only thing ILS could have been, is the old Shequel, which valued at 1,000ILS/1NIS.
P.P.S.: Quoting from “Unfabulous”: (couldn’t find a better example) “BURN!” XP
And, forgot to say, in addition to the in addition, i’m an Israeli resident, so I know our economy a little better, ok? :-P
*A) The stocks site also…
And, you can’t see my initial, HUGE, comment because it’s “under moderation” since i’ve included 4 links as proof to Katarina. And, Kat, are you by any chance related to Katharine Berry? Same want to prove me wrong O.o No offense of course.
http://www.x-rates.com/d/ILS/USD/graph120.html
NIS trading rates.
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=1&from=USD&to=ILS&submit=Convert
ILS trading rates.
Difference being pick your poison. Few markets trade old valuation currency. ILS is often used interchangably with it, but the valuation is certainly different.
The second site does a better job illustrating what I was trying to say, that the projected price is oftentimes vastly different from the real.
Hey, this was about me and my new graphics card! *pouts*
As in USD -> NIS and NIS -> USD? Reasonable. Still, USD -> ILS and USD -> NIS are the same values, I suspect one site has it wrong. In addition, I check a real-time Israeli site (themarker.com - warning, Hebrew site) so it’ll always be correct about my side of the trade. Which means, it could be 3.6 for you to trade, and it could be 3.4 for me to trade, no matter how ridiculous it sounds.
“Vint: Hey, this was about me and my new graphics card! *pouts*”
Hey yeah, this is about Vint, congrates on your new Graphics Card.
*scratches head*
Is “congrates” the right thing to say, I mean you didn’t win it, it was given to you. oh, I know…
Hey yeah, this is about Vint, you lucky kitty.
So, bribery works to get ownership privledges?
Tiessa, yes. :d *looks at here headset hanging half apart* (just kidding, btw! ;))
She did not claim those privileges yet, though.
dont worry Tiessa, you dont have to invest to much in fancy electronics… just spread out a pink blanket, and Musti will come crawling towards you… :-)
*sniffs the pink blanket* Oh, it still smells like Veronique! *crawls up on the pink blanked* ;)
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