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AO notecard missing from database: Advice needed

February 20, 2008 6:13 pm

aargI have a ZHAO AO and wanted to add some more - feminine - poses. Guess what happened? Right, when trying to edit the notecard inside that determines which poses the AO chooses from, I get a ‘notecard missing from database’. So there the notecard is, in the AO, but I just can’t open it/see what’s in it anymore.

Strangely enough, the ZHAO still functions as it should, reading the information from exact that notecard that is so-called missing from database, as it still displays the poses I’ve listed in the notecard. If I’m trying to access the copy of the notecard I have in my inventory, it gives the same ‘missing from database’ error message.

Me is now highly confused and wonders:

  • If somebody knows how I can still find out what was written in my poses notecard. So I can copy paste that, make the necessary changes and insert it in my ZHAO again.
  • Will I be able to delete the current notecard(s), if it’s missing from database?
  • If someone can hand me a copy of their ZHAO notecards, so I can see how things were to be written again.

Update: Takuan and his alts are experiencing the exact same problem. Anybody else? Take a quick peep into your AO’s (right click, edit, last tab) and try to open the notecards to see if they are still there/allocated right?

19 Responses to “AO notecard missing from database: Advice needed”

Takuan wrote a comment on February 20, 2008
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Wow, what phenomenal timing, I just blogged about the same issue yesterday!

A sample notecard can be found at : http://www.daikonforge.com/downloads/sampleZHAO.txt

As for whether you can recover your existing notecard, I’m not aware of any way to do so :( I also don’t know the effect of deleting it, but that’s LL’s problem, not yours :)

I’m currently working on a way to edit ZHAO-II notecards online, but that doesn’t help you because it’s not done yet :(

Best of luck to you!

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Vint Falken wrote a comment on February 20, 2008
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Thanks for the swift response, Takuan. I’ll try making a new notecard based on your example and then switching them. *crosses her tail*

Nimil wrote a comment on February 20, 2008
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my xcite collar did this one time and i ended up having to buy a whole new collar script pack so i could get the notecard :(

however the zhao notecard is pretty simple to come across and i think you’ve already found out so.. yay.

Tiessa Montgolfier wrote a comment on February 20, 2008
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I’ve had this happen with notecards and scripts before. Sometimes it will work again if you just click on it, sometimes you have to log off and log back on and it will work. Sometimes, you’ll need to wait a while, then log off and log back on.

Basically, as long as the script/notecard is still functioning, I’ve found that it will “return”. Mostly, I think it’s an asset DB issue or a client caching issue.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on February 20, 2008
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But this is 4 days now already… (I waited for it to return before starting to complain.)

Veyron says you inventory-lossed something too. Something rather important. Did you get it back in the end?

Tiessa Montgolfier wrote a comment on February 20, 2008
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I lost my collar with all of my animations, modified scripts, etc. *pouts* Huge piles of hours and huge piles of L$ invested and I dragged it to the ground to add an animation to it and *poof*.

Never did come back.

Tiessa Montgolfier wrote a comment on February 20, 2008
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Yeah 4 days without it working is bad - I bet it’s still working only because of a cached copy somewhere.

Tiessa Montgolfier wrote a comment on February 21, 2008
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As far as being able to delete it, you shouldn’t have a problem. I’ve never had a problem deleting something that was “asset not found” like this.

The reference to the object and the contents of the object are do different things. The contents are lost, but not the reference to it. In my case, the reference to my object was lost, but, I would suppose the entire object still exists in the database, it’s just accessible.

Erbo Evans wrote a comment on February 21, 2008
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I just opened mine up (I use a Huddles Deluxe) and checked all four of the AO notecards it had in it. Everything was there. Never seen this particular problem…I hope it’s a rare and unusual thing.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on February 21, 2008
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Tiessa, thank you so much for the comforting words! :d And maybe then your collar will someday again show up! *shall keep her tail crossed for you*

Erbo, thanks for taking a look, this is lucky for you! I now wonder if it’s a Zhao specific problem, or just both me and Takuan were especially unlucky.

Tiessa Montgolfier wrote a comment on February 21, 2008
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I think its a problem with all assents to a certain extent, at one point or another I’ve seen it with scripts and notecards, but I don’t see why it can’t happen with textures or anything else. It hasn’t just been AO notecards for me.

Erbo Evans wrote a comment on February 21, 2008
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If it were a Zhao-specific problem, it might show up with a Huddles, as the Huddles 1.2 uses a modified Zhao-II script for its AO functionality.

In any event, ANY reports of something like this happening indicate that there’s something funny going on with the asset server, as it’s not supposed to just lose content like this, no matter how trivial.

Ziggy Puff wrote a comment on February 21, 2008
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> Strangely enough, the ZHAO still functions as it should, reading the information from exact that notecard that is so-called missing from database, as it still displays the poses I’ve listed in the notecard.

The reason the AO keeps working is because it only reads the notecard when you say ‘Load’, after that all the animation names are held in the script’s memory (you could say it ‘remembers’ them). It would be extremely laggy to try and read the notecard each time a new animation needs to be played.

So that explains why the AO’s still working. This also means that if your script got reset for some reason, it would probably fail to read the notecard (the same way your av can’t read it), and then your animation list would be lost.

I’ve had one person report this to me several months ago. I don’t expect this would be a ZHAO-specific issue, since the ZHAO doesn’t do anything unusual in terms of how it reads the notecard. But… this is SL, so who knows. It’s weird that it happened to several people at the same time. I think LL rolled back a few hundred sims yesterday… but again, that should not cause the asset server to lose assets. The key word being ’should’.

Sorry I don’t have any better suggestions than that :(

Day Oh wrote a comment on February 23, 2008
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If, mysteriously, the script can still read the notecard, why not add another script to read the whole notecard and show you its contents?

string NOTECARD = “listmaker instructions”;

key notequery;
integer noteline;

default
{
state_entry()
{
notequery = llGetNotecardLine(NOTECARD, noteline = 0);
}

dataserver(key queryid, string data)
{
if(queryid != notequery)
return;
if(data == EOF)
return;
llOwnerSay(”Line ” + (string)noteline + “: ” + data);
notequery = llGetNotecardLine(NOTECARD, ++noteline);
}
}

Ziggy Puff wrote a comment on February 23, 2008
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I guess I didn’t do a good job of explaining this in my last post. The script *cannot* read the notecard. The reason the script is working is because it’s already read the notecard. That happened when the script was told to load the notecard, which could have been days/weeks/months ago. If the script got reset, it would try to read the notecard again, and would fail. If a new ‘load’ command was issued, the script would try to read the notecard, and fail.

Once the asset server loses track of an notecard, in my experience it cannot be read by avs or scripts.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on February 23, 2008
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So, Ziggy, there’s no llForceAOtoTellWhatItRemembers? ;)

Thank you all for the advice, I’ll just recreate the notecard from the example Takuan provided. (and keep a .txt file copy of that)

Ziggy Puff wrote a comment on February 23, 2008
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Heh, that’s actually a good idea. Since the script knows what used to be in the notecard, I could add a command to tell the script to spit out what’s in its memory. That way, even if the notecard gets broken, as long as the script hasn’t been reset, you could re-create the notecard. I’ll try and implement this in ZHAO-III :)

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