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	<title>Comments on: AO notecard missing from database: Advice needed</title>
	<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/</link>
	<description>Exporting an SL photographer's Second Life</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Notecard is missing from database &#171; Samurai Pickle</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31667</link>
		<dc:creator>Notecard is missing from database &#171; Samurai Pickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31667</guid>
		<description>[...] Update: Apparently, Vint Falken is experiencing the exact same thing. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Update: Apparently, Vint Falken is experiencing the exact same thing. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ziggy Puff</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31513</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziggy Puff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31513</guid>
		<description>Heh, that's actually a good idea. Since the script knows what used to be in the notecard, I could add a command to tell the script to spit out what's in its memory. That way, even if the notecard gets broken, as long as the script hasn't been reset, you could re-create the notecard. I'll try and implement this in ZHAO-III :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, that&#8217;s actually a good idea. Since the script knows what used to be in the notecard, I could add a command to tell the script to spit out what&#8217;s in its memory. That way, even if the notecard gets broken, as long as the script hasn&#8217;t been reset, you could re-create the notecard. I&#8217;ll try and implement this in ZHAO-III :)</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31507</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31507</guid>
		<description>So, Ziggy, there's no llForceAOtoTellWhatItRemembers? ;)

Thank you all for the advice, I'll just recreate the notecard from the example Takuan provided. (and keep a .txt file copy of that)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Ziggy, there&#8217;s no llForceAOtoTellWhatItRemembers? ;)</p>
<p>Thank you all for the advice, I&#8217;ll just recreate the notecard from the example Takuan provided. (and keep a .txt file copy of that)</p>
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		<title>By: Ziggy Puff</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31501</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziggy Puff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31501</guid>
		<description>I guess I didn't do a good job of explaining this in my last post. The script *cannot* read the notecard. The reason the script is working is because it's already read the notecard. That happened when the script was told to load the notecard, which could have been days/weeks/months ago. If the script got reset, it would try to read the notecard again, and would fail. If a new 'load' command was issued, the script would try to read the notecard, and fail.

Once the asset server loses track of an notecard, in my experience it cannot be read by avs or scripts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I didn&#8217;t do a good job of explaining this in my last post. The script *cannot* read the notecard. The reason the script is working is because it&#8217;s already read the notecard. That happened when the script was told to load the notecard, which could have been days/weeks/months ago. If the script got reset, it would try to read the notecard again, and would fail. If a new &#8216;load&#8217; command was issued, the script would try to read the notecard, and fail.</p>
<p>Once the asset server loses track of an notecard, in my experience it cannot be read by avs or scripts.</p>
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		<title>By: Day Oh</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31499</link>
		<dc:creator>Day Oh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31499</guid>
		<description>If, mysteriously, the script can still read the notecard, why not add another script to read the whole notecard and show you its contents?


string NOTECARD = "listmaker instructions";


key notequery;
integer noteline;


default
{
    state_entry()
    {
        notequery = llGetNotecardLine(NOTECARD, noteline = 0);
    }

    dataserver(key queryid, string data)
    {
        if(queryid != notequery)
            return;
        if(data == EOF)
            return;
        llOwnerSay("Line " + (string)noteline + ": " + data);
        notequery = llGetNotecardLine(NOTECARD, ++noteline);
    }
}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If, mysteriously, the script can still read the notecard, why not add another script to read the whole notecard and show you its contents?</p>
<p>string NOTECARD = &#8220;listmaker instructions&#8221;;</p>
<p>key notequery;<br />
integer noteline;</p>
<p>default<br />
{<br />
    state_entry()<br />
    {<br />
        notequery = llGetNotecardLine(NOTECARD, noteline = 0);<br />
    }</p>
<p>    dataserver(key queryid, string data)<br />
    {<br />
        if(queryid != notequery)<br />
            return;<br />
        if(data == EOF)<br />
            return;<br />
        llOwnerSay(&#8221;Line &#8221; + (string)noteline + &#8220;: &#8221; + data);<br />
        notequery = llGetNotecardLine(NOTECARD, ++noteline);<br />
    }<br />
}</p>
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		<title>By: Ziggy Puff</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31427</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziggy Puff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31427</guid>
		<description>&#62; Strangely enough, the ZHAO still functions as it should, reading the information from exact that notecard that is so-called missing from database, as it still displays the poses I’ve listed in the notecard.

The reason the AO keeps working is because it only reads the notecard when you say 'Load', after that all the animation names are held in the script's memory (you could say it 'remembers' them). It would be extremely laggy to try and read the notecard each time a new animation needs to be played.

So that explains why the AO's still working. This also means that if your script got reset for some reason, it would probably fail to read the notecard (the same way your av can't read it), and then your animation list would be lost.

I've had one person report this to me several months ago. I don't expect this would be a ZHAO-specific issue, since the ZHAO doesn't do anything unusual in terms of how it reads the notecard. But... this is SL, so who knows. It's weird that it happened to several people at the same time. I think LL rolled back a few hundred sims yesterday... but again, that should not cause the asset server to lose assets. The key word being 'should'.

Sorry I don't have any better suggestions than that :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Strangely enough, the ZHAO still functions as it should, reading the information from exact that notecard that is so-called missing from database, as it still displays the poses I’ve listed in the notecard.</p>
<p>The reason the AO keeps working is because it only reads the notecard when you say &#8216;Load&#8217;, after that all the animation names are held in the script&#8217;s memory (you could say it &#8216;remembers&#8217; them). It would be extremely laggy to try and read the notecard each time a new animation needs to be played.</p>
<p>So that explains why the AO&#8217;s still working. This also means that if your script got reset for some reason, it would probably fail to read the notecard (the same way your av can&#8217;t read it), and then your animation list would be lost.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had one person report this to me several months ago. I don&#8217;t expect this would be a ZHAO-specific issue, since the ZHAO doesn&#8217;t do anything unusual in terms of how it reads the notecard. But&#8230; this is SL, so who knows. It&#8217;s weird that it happened to several people at the same time. I think LL rolled back a few hundred sims yesterday&#8230; but again, that should not cause the asset server to lose assets. The key word being &#8217;should&#8217;.</p>
<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t have any better suggestions than that :(</p>
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		<title>By: Erbo Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31408</link>
		<dc:creator>Erbo Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31408</guid>
		<description>If it were a Zhao-specific problem, it might show up with a Huddles, as the Huddles 1.2 uses a modified Zhao-II script for its AO functionality.

In any event, ANY reports of something like this happening indicate that there's something funny going on with the asset server, as it's not supposed to just lose content like this, no matter how trivial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were a Zhao-specific problem, it might show up with a Huddles, as the Huddles 1.2 uses a modified Zhao-II script for its AO functionality.</p>
<p>In any event, ANY reports of something like this happening indicate that there&#8217;s something funny going on with the asset server, as it&#8217;s not supposed to just lose content like this, no matter how trivial.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiessa Montgolfier</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31407</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiessa Montgolfier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31407</guid>
		<description>I think its a problem with all assents to a certain extent, at one point or another I've seen it with scripts and notecards, but I don't see why it can't happen with textures or anything else. It hasn't just been AO notecards for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a problem with all assents to a certain extent, at one point or another I&#8217;ve seen it with scripts and notecards, but I don&#8217;t see why it can&#8217;t happen with textures or anything else. It hasn&#8217;t just been AO notecards for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31372</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31372</guid>
		<description>Tiessa, thank you so much for the comforting words! :d And maybe then your collar will someday again show up! *shall keep her tail crossed for you*

Erbo, thanks for taking a look, this is lucky for you! I now wonder if it's a Zhao specific problem, or just both me and Takuan were especially unlucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiessa, thank you so much for the comforting words! :d And maybe then your collar will someday again show up! *shall keep her tail crossed for you*</p>
<p>Erbo, thanks for taking a look, this is lucky for you! I now wonder if it&#8217;s a Zhao specific problem, or just both me and Takuan were especially unlucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Erbo Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31321</link>
		<dc:creator>Erbo Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/ao-notecard-missing-from-database-advice-needed/#comment-31321</guid>
		<description>I just opened mine up (I use a Huddles Deluxe) and checked all four of the AO notecards it had in it.  Everything was there.  Never seen this particular problem...I hope it's a rare and unusual thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just opened mine up (I use a Huddles Deluxe) and checked all four of the AO notecards it had in it.  Everything was there.  Never seen this particular problem&#8230;I hope it&#8217;s a rare and unusual thing.</p>
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