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Prok, someone might be inclined to listen to you if you stopped calling people hateful, dumb and ignorant.

It is true that there is no contract for Anshe to buy land at a fair price. That means “buyer beware”.

– Shoshana

Although… one, last try.

you still tried to portray Anshe’s own site as somehow a rip-off, and the Slexchange.com as not a rip-off, which is laughable, given she is a major owner of Slexchange.com

No it’s not. If you have two companies selling the exact same product: one very expensive and one normal, then the one selling the product expensive is a rip-off. Regardless who the shareholders are.

I did that. I leave the rest of the (flame-filled) argument to you two.

1. While seemingly noting that Anshe was partial owner of Slexchange.com, you still tried to portray Anshe’s own site as somehow a rip-off, and the Slexchange.com as not a rip-off, which is laughable, given she is a major owner of Slexchange.com

2. I didn’t say Anshe’s rates were *better*; it’s somewhat worse but not as bad as you imply. I said it was misleading to only post a plain rate of X dollars/X Lindens as if that is the final rate, when in fact Linden and Paypal both add fees. When Anshe presents her information on her website, it includes the fees. And again, what I said was that she was very fast — there was no 5-7 day wait as with Linden, but often within 24 hours.

3. Once again, it’s not about “I hate you Vint,” it’s about Vint’s tendentious, misleading commentary which is *hateful itself*. She implied there was something “wrong” and even “evil” about Anshe somehow “bilking people” without explaining that she *includes* the fees; she also failed to mention that she does everything much faster; and finally, she failed to draw the conclusion that if Anshe is so “awful,” how as she, as a major owner of Slexchange.com, able to suddenly become “good” when in that mode?

4. Guardian, it looks like you are not getting the point, either.

Here’s what Vint said about the Lindex in her chart:

LindeX 100 000 L$ 376.24 USD 25.33 USD loss

Here’s what you said about the same Lindex:

Now we subtract out that dollar for Paypal, giving a net of $348.64 if we use the LindeX

Here’s what Vint said, in a totally twisted logic:

“the amount of RL money you need to put in extra to get 100 000 L$ again ”

Um, huh? Why do you calculate exchange rates by the round trip? Everyone knows that it is precisely the cost of the round trip that makes playing the LindEx fairly pointless.

These comparisons should be made merely on the actual rate for purchase or the actual rate for sale, and what it really costs you.

Anshe uses mass-pay and saves people the fees of PayPal itself in receiving the cashout.

You have to calculate the fees for cashing out, pure and simple, all the way — and these can be .04 percent by PayPal, depending on what country you live in, whether you have the merchant account status, etc.

Therefore, re: “So tell me, what fees did I miss? ALL fees were included. I’ll add that to the disclaimer, as I forgot to mention that.” — there is the fee of PayPal itself in receiving something from Linden Lab.

Re:

>Anshe Chung is a major rip off merchant… We used to ‘rent’ land from her and when we couldn’t sell it, we sold it back to them for 50% of it’s value

Um, well, that’s life. Why would a land dealer be required to buy back your land from you at the same rate you paid? Huh? Do you realize this is a free market, and not socialism? In real life, do you think there is some kind of socialist guarantee that your land should be bought back? Be thankful she even pays 50 percent. It could just sit there and sell at whatever the market would pay, which might be $2/m or less.

The contract in the covenant implies no such same-rate buy-back policy whatsoever. It explains that you cannot expect to get such a thing, in fact. So why the fussing and fuming?

>and THEN they decided that they wanted the rent too even though we had a PayPal account set up to handle it, but they’d not informed us of the switch from automated subscription billing to manual

That’s patently retarded. Indeed they have informed people in the group over and over again, ad nauseum, with frequent notices and constant explanations. And it is up to you, when installing a recurring PayPal subscription, to yourself cancel it and not wait for ACS to cancel it — indeed they cannot cancel your recurring billing in a subscription.

>, so I think they were just being sneaky and underhanded… we had well over L$100,000 worth of land and walked away with a fraction of that in our pockets.

There’s hardly anything sneaky about a) keeping to the terms of the covenant which is your lease, which apparently you failed to read and grasp and b) buying back your land at 50 percent. Other landlords don’t even feel that obligation.

100000LS would cost 312 EUR which is 464USD!!!

Selling 1000000LS would get you 250 EUR which is 371 USD. Did not check if there are any processing to RL bank account/paypall fees though.