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	<title>Comments on: Copybot 2.0 &#8230; Myth, Rumour or Reality?</title>
	<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/</link>
	<description>Exporting an SL photographer's Second Life</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smiley Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-53206</link>
		<dc:creator>Smiley Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-53206</guid>
		<description>Ok, i'll let go. *Picks up phone* So, Raul, still got the number for that assassin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, i&#8217;ll let go. *Picks up phone* So, Raul, still got the number for that assassin?</p>
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		<title>By: Raul Crimson</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-53177</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul Crimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-53177</guid>
		<description>Come on, Smiley, just forget him, is just someone enough idiot that thinks is fun to steal instead of create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, Smiley, just forget him, is just someone enough idiot that thinks is fun to steal instead of create.</p>
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		<title>By: quantum</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-52908</link>
		<dc:creator>quantum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-52908</guid>
		<description>well you can try to get my IP banned, but I use  a 7 miles super wirelss engine with packets injection and I crack others wireless connections, so you'll probably get someone else banned lol, btw, all I do I doit for fun, I'm not that crazy to resell stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well you can try to get my IP banned, but I use  a 7 miles super wirelss engine with packets injection and I crack others wireless connections, so you&#8217;ll probably get someone else banned lol, btw, all I do I doit for fun, I&#8217;m not that crazy to resell stuff</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-52671</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-52671</guid>
		<description>Smiley, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he only does that to his own stuff everyday? It's just an idiot that does not even dare to give out his full avie name. Ignore him! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smiley, let&#8217;s give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he only does that to his own stuff everyday? It&#8217;s just an idiot that does not even dare to give out his full avie name. Ignore him! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Smiley Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-52657</link>
		<dc:creator>Smiley Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-52657</guid>
		<description>Umm, Quantum, you can get BANNED from Second Life and PROSECUTED in a REAL LIFE COURT for that. Linden know you're using one by the way, as CopyBot asks the server for specific info in a specific order several times. :-P (E.g.: the normal SL viewer asks for environment info on a random order. Prim 2953, prim 6853, prim 3954, etc. Copybot asks for prims on a &lt;b&gt;fixed&lt;/b&gt; order. Prim 2953, prim 2954, prim 2955, etc.) In addition, if Vint will hand over your IP, i'll try to get you banned from all SL blogs in the SL Bloggers group, and have you banned from Second Life Wikia as well. Now, get lost you pathetic criminal. &#62;:-(

P.S.: If this is a joke I think now's the time to say "Gotcha!" and run off. &#62;.&#62;

(Other readers, note I wasn't "too harsh" on him. He LITERALLY steals the clothes off our backs and picks our pockets.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, Quantum, you can get BANNED from Second Life and PROSECUTED in a REAL LIFE COURT for that. Linden know you&#8217;re using one by the way, as CopyBot asks the server for specific info in a specific order several times. :-P (E.g.: the normal SL viewer asks for environment info on a random order. Prim 2953, prim 6853, prim 3954, etc. Copybot asks for prims on a <b>fixed</b> order. Prim 2953, prim 2954, prim 2955, etc.) In addition, if Vint will hand over your IP, i&#8217;ll try to get you banned from all SL blogs in the SL Bloggers group, and have you banned from Second Life Wikia as well. Now, get lost you pathetic criminal. &gt;:-(</p>
<p>P.S.: If this is a joke I think now&#8217;s the time to say &#8220;Gotcha!&#8221; and run off. &gt;.&gt;</p>
<p>(Other readers, note I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;too harsh&#8221; on him. He LITERALLY steals the clothes off our backs and picks our pockets.)</p>
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		<title>By: quantum</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-52630</link>
		<dc:creator>quantum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-52630</guid>
		<description>I have copybot and I use it every day, I can clone avatar, dumputoutfits textures to hard disk in 10 sec from any avatar, I can copy everything that is rezzed, I can copy particle sysytem effects, it remake the scripts, It's awesome   I t has ton of functions, you can't imagine, it can log 20 bots at time, itr can speak, im , tp, fly, follow and get orders by im form an avatar master but prob is today started working dam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have copybot and I use it every day, I can clone avatar, dumputoutfits textures to hard disk in 10 sec from any avatar, I can copy everything that is rezzed, I can copy particle sysytem effects, it remake the scripts, It&#8217;s awesome   I t has ton of functions, you can&#8217;t imagine, it can log 20 bots at time, itr can speak, im , tp, fly, follow and get orders by im form an avatar master but prob is today started working dam!</p>
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		<title>By: Dalien Talbot</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-46242</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalien Talbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 05:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-46242</guid>
		<description>Ambiguous,

What I wanted to say - any tool has two sides - and looking at only one side is wrong - whichever side that be. There are a lot of folks who look at it from either "it's only for backups" or "it's only for piracy" point of view. 

There's no illegal *technology* - there its illegal *use* - and the latter should be subject of noise, not the former.

As for the dependance on the asset servers - it's not unique to the LL grid. AFAIK there's no distributed technology at the moment - simply because boxing the users into the walled garden is a more fruity business for now.

I suspect if someone takes the copies off their own assets for backup purposes - they will be only right to do it. Indeed, IANAL, and the laws are strange these days - so maybe that's not legal after all :)

/d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ambiguous,</p>
<p>What I wanted to say - any tool has two sides - and looking at only one side is wrong - whichever side that be. There are a lot of folks who look at it from either &#8220;it&#8217;s only for backups&#8221; or &#8220;it&#8217;s only for piracy&#8221; point of view. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no illegal *technology* - there its illegal *use* - and the latter should be subject of noise, not the former.</p>
<p>As for the dependance on the asset servers - it&#8217;s not unique to the LL grid. AFAIK there&#8217;s no distributed technology at the moment - simply because boxing the users into the walled garden is a more fruity business for now.</p>
<p>I suspect if someone takes the copies off their own assets for backup purposes - they will be only right to do it. Indeed, IANAL, and the laws are strange these days - so maybe that&#8217;s not legal after all :)</p>
<p>/d</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-46171</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 22:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-46171</guid>
		<description>@Ambigious: I think Dalien would be the last one for the banning argument.

And Ambigious, as long as you back up your own assets I have no problem with it either. As long as you don't resell multiple copies of those that were not created by you. 

But the whole problem here is, that there seems to be no way to prevent people from stealing without loosing the freedom we have now. Maybe the right way to deal with this, is to stop trying to prevent them, but find a good and efficient way to punish them if they do? (And the current procedures in place are neither good or efficient.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ambigious: I think Dalien would be the last one for the banning argument.</p>
<p>And Ambigious, as long as you back up your own assets I have no problem with it either. As long as you don&#8217;t resell multiple copies of those that were not created by you. </p>
<p>But the whole problem here is, that there seems to be no way to prevent people from stealing without loosing the freedom we have now. Maybe the right way to deal with this, is to stop trying to prevent them, but find a good and efficient way to punish them if they do? (And the current procedures in place are neither good or efficient.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ambiguous</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-46125</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambiguous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 19:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-46125</guid>
		<description>@ Dalien... so does that mean we should ban forks, cars, tools, jet airliners, computers?  Because all of these can be used inappropriately by malevolent individuals/groups.

My main concern is the dependence on LL asset servers.  LL encourages this virtual economy and a consumer-based one at that.  So people actually sink in some real dollars to "buy" things.  Once people do that, they will try to protect their investments, whether they be island sims, mainland parcels, dresses, suits, etc. etc.  I assume LL keeps records of who bought what parcel/sim/estate as it must to charge the all-important tier.  But it cares nothing for people's inventories.  I think that to resell other's works for one's own profit is completely wrong.  But to back up your assets to a safer or redundant system is just a legitimate and prudent thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dalien&#8230; so does that mean we should ban forks, cars, tools, jet airliners, computers?  Because all of these can be used inappropriately by malevolent individuals/groups.</p>
<p>My main concern is the dependence on LL asset servers.  LL encourages this virtual economy and a consumer-based one at that.  So people actually sink in some real dollars to &#8220;buy&#8221; things.  Once people do that, they will try to protect their investments, whether they be island sims, mainland parcels, dresses, suits, etc. etc.  I assume LL keeps records of who bought what parcel/sim/estate as it must to charge the all-important tier.  But it cares nothing for people&#8217;s inventories.  I think that to resell other&#8217;s works for one&#8217;s own profit is completely wrong.  But to back up your assets to a safer or redundant system is just a legitimate and prudent thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalien Talbot</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-35152</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalien Talbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/copybot-20-myth-rumour-or-reality/#comment-35152</guid>
		<description>Every knife can be used either to cut the bread and slice the butter, or to stab in the back on a dark street...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every knife can be used either to cut the bread and slice the butter, or to stab in the back on a dark street&#8230;</p>
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