Comments on: Desire is never political correct: Second Life’s succes?

By: Vint Falken

Vint Falken — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:25:47 +0000

You could compare it with the relationships (young) adolescents have in first life - particularly because Tim and I were quite “young” indeed at the time.

Ok, that does make sence. But still… I sort of fail to understand. (And it isn’t because you didn’t do your best explaining it to me. Maybe I’m a bit to conservative, or compairing to FL to much. =))

I still subscribe the point of view about the cheating, but it doesn’t stop me anymore *blush*.

*grins*

By: Zippora Zabelin

Zippora Zabelin — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:19:59 +0000

*Looks desperately at Timothy* Help, she doesn’t get it! ;-)
“If there was no physical interaction though, she did not call it a relationship. I still think the same goes for SL?”
I understand what you say about your human’s experiences, and it hasn’t been different in my first life. Though I think it is even in first life possible to have a relation without (intimate) physical interaction. And on that point SL isn’t different.
You could compare it with the relationships (young) adolescents have in first life - particularly because Tim and I were quite “young” indeed at the time. We were quite shy and overwhelmed by the feelings that got hold of us, and it felt like a relationship from the moment we shared this with each other.
And btw, I didn’t say there was no physical interaction at all, only never more than a hug and a shy kiss ;-)
There was something else bothering me too at that time. I had once SLex before Timothy came in. It was funny and exciting, but not more than that. But now, with the strong feelings I had for Tim, the idea of having sex with him felt like cheating my FL-partner. That was enough reason for me to keep back in those days.
If I look back now, I’ve evolved from a shy adolescent to a mature woman in SL. I still subscribe the point of view about the cheating, but it doesn’t stop me anymore *blush*.
Anyway, I still think I would be able to have a relationship without any sex too, in both my first or second life (but luckily I’m blessed with the physical part for both atm ;-) )

By: Vint Falken

Vint Falken — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:17:47 +0000

Thank you for sharing, Zippora. Although, I still have a hard time agreeing. How would you define a relationship? Besides butterflies and sharing time? My human had the butterflies and shared time with some persons during her life time. If there was no physical interaction though, she did not call it a relationship. I still think the same goes for SL?

By: Zippora Zabelin

Zippora Zabelin — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:14:21 +0000

Hey brother, don’t blush like that: I’ve asked you permission before writing that comment :P

By: Timothy Lilliehook

Timothy Lilliehook — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:53:43 +0000

*BLUSHES*
Well, I can only second that. A SL relationship without SLex is possible and a very nice experience that is way more than “just” a friendship.

By: Zippora Zabelin

Zippora Zabelin — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:12:43 +0000

I’m sorry, Dandellion: here I go again ;-)
My first relationship was definitely more than a friendship, even without the SLex. I don’t have butterflies in my stomache when I meet “a” friend, nor do I have the urge to be with him the whole day (*nods* sharing time is inherent to a relationship) The butterflies have gone after a while, but he’s still a very good friend of me, as you can read in Timothy’s blog (yes, it was this cute fellow blogger)

By: dandellion Kimban

dandellion Kimban — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:25:28 +0000

*stops writing her book and screams: Stop adding new topics to this!

By: Vint Falken

Vint Falken — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:54:18 +0000

Yes, it should be based on that. But without the SLex part, I count it as ‘friendship’. =) As for the sharing property, what about sharing responsabilities, time, … ?

By: Zippora Zabelin

Zippora Zabelin — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:40:49 +0000

*laughs about Veroniques words*, no not writing a book, not even a blogpost about it ;-)
But there is one line that was lingering in my mind since I’ve read it:
“Should we see those Second Life relationships as an elite form of the Slescort business or just as a relationship that has to live up to other standards than our real life ones”
The first part implies that a relationship is based on sex. My first SL-relationship was without sex, and it definitely was a seriious relation. I think a relationship, SL or RL, should be based on love, understanding, trust, which grows after the first wonderful feeling that you’ve known each other for much longer than you do.
In this respect (my) relations in SL and RL don’t differ. The balance in a relationship is of a mental, emotional kind, and not depending on the way you share property.

By: Veronique Kaminski

Veronique Kaminski — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:27:21 +0000

no comments yet? well, I guess that most have that much to say about this topic that instead of posting some comment lines, they started writing a book…