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	<title>Comments on: Overheard, or voyeurism in Second Life</title>
	<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Happy &#8216;yesterday, Rezzday&#8217; to me &#124; VintFalken.com</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-13776</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy &#8216;yesterday, Rezzday&#8217; to me &#124; VintFalken.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-13776</guid>
		<description>[...] 2007: End of the SLelections, callout for photographs for SLart at the Cannery, discussing respecting privacy in Second Life or not and the human abandoning me for a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 2007: End of the SLelections, callout for photographs for SLart at the Cannery, discussing respecting privacy in Second Life or not and the human abandoning me for a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Bhelle Alacrity</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4870</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhelle Alacrity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4870</guid>
		<description>I'm slightly taken aback that you could resist the temptation to go right in there and help them adjust the positions. She seems to be chewing some part of his anatomy that doesn't feature in Johnson and Masters. 
This strikes me as a serious moral issue. People in need......
Condy has sent in troops on lesser provocation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m slightly taken aback that you could resist the temptation to go right in there and help them adjust the positions. She seems to be chewing some part of his anatomy that doesn&#8217;t feature in Johnson and Masters.<br />
This strikes me as a serious moral issue. People in need&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Condy has sent in troops on lesser provocation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dal</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4518</link>
		<dc:creator>Dal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4518</guid>
		<description>@Vint: dialup: you mean 2400, or 14400 on a noisy phone line would be a better idea  ? :D

*makes innocent look and starts studying the stars in the sky*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vint: dialup: you mean 2400, or 14400 on a noisy phone line would be a better idea  ? :D</p>
<p>*makes innocent look and starts studying the stars in the sky*</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe Streeter</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4514</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe Streeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4514</guid>
		<description>Now *that* would be cruel and entirely unethical ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now *that* would be cruel and entirely unethical ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4509</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4509</guid>
		<description>I suggest we sentence London to dial-up speed for 30 minutes? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest we sentence London to dial-up speed for 30 minutes? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: London Spengler</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4507</link>
		<dc:creator>London Spengler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4507</guid>
		<description>And with this last words, I consider the fact accounting done, and the case ready to be sentenced :-)

*bows for the galery*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And with this last words, I consider the fact accounting done, and the case ready to be sentenced :-)</p>
<p>*bows for the galery*</p>
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		<title>By: veronique kaminski</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4498</link>
		<dc:creator>veronique kaminski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4498</guid>
		<description>@ London "...like all private residences whithout locked doors,etc..?"  Yes! exactly..  tell me, how can I distinguis between a private place and a public place, if it isnt made "private" by the owner? 

Some days ago I was eg in the Greenies sim.  It looked like a (giant) private house, I wasnt invited, and it didnt have sign "Welcome, come in please !" hanging at the entrance... 
So, was it wrong for me to go in?

Am I really only allowed to go to shopping malls, clubs and places I receive a landmark or tp offers for?

And no, in RL I wouldnt enter somebodies house just like that. But we are talking about SL here, (where exploring is an aim)and there are some (slightly) different rules... 

and, yes, I said a pair of words about what they were doing. But making a comment still is something else then making fun about something..
Or is that forbidden too? Hey guys, this is 2007 not 1984 !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ London &#8220;&#8230;like all private residences whithout locked doors,etc..?&#8221;  Yes! exactly..  tell me, how can I distinguis between a private place and a public place, if it isnt made &#8220;private&#8221; by the owner? </p>
<p>Some days ago I was eg in the Greenies sim.  It looked like a (giant) private house, I wasnt invited, and it didnt have sign &#8220;Welcome, come in please !&#8221; hanging at the entrance&#8230;<br />
So, was it wrong for me to go in?</p>
<p>Am I really only allowed to go to shopping malls, clubs and places I receive a landmark or tp offers for?</p>
<p>And no, in RL I wouldnt enter somebodies house just like that. But we are talking about SL here, (where exploring is an aim)and there are some (slightly) different rules&#8230; </p>
<p>and, yes, I said a pair of words about what they were doing. But making a comment still is something else then making fun about something..<br />
Or is that forbidden too? Hey guys, this is 2007 not 1984 !</p>
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		<title>By: London Spengler</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4492</link>
		<dc:creator>London Spengler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4492</guid>
		<description>Sorry, forgot to answer about people making fun... I did, for example: "and see everybody commenting their (I’ve to admit pretty lame) sexual exploits"

So did Dandellion "As I can guess from those couple of lines, those two are cybersex noobs :))))"

Wait, even you have a pair of words for them: "the people caught in the act were so uninspired… "

/me sighs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, forgot to answer about people making fun&#8230; I did, for example: &#8220;and see everybody commenting their (I’ve to admit pretty lame) sexual exploits&#8221;</p>
<p>So did Dandellion &#8220;As I can guess from those couple of lines, those two are cybersex noobs :))))&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait, even you have a pair of words for them: &#8220;the people caught in the act were so uninspired… &#8221;</p>
<p>/me sighs.</p>
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		<title>By: London Spengler</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4491</link>
		<dc:creator>London Spengler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4491</guid>
		<description>*smiles evily*

"My point is that there is absolutely nothing unethical about exploring and entering PUBLIC AND ACCESSIBLE SIMs in SL, taking snapshots of the things and activities your see there, and posting them or comment on Flickr, Blogs, etc… that is what (for a big part) SL and SL related blogs are all about !"
Exploring, entering, camming?

Even better... "PUBLIC AND ACCESSIBLE SIMs"... like all private residences whithout locked doors, security systems or red lines?.

"I DO see the difference, but again, this is about crossing a personal moral limit."... I cannot disagree there, is that kind of personal moral limits that make that kind of picks illegal in RL *winks*.

"they themselfs too should have the awareness, or even the honesty and responsability, not to deploy these kind of activities, or at least not in a place where they can be observed.."... 

I keep forgetting, wasn't inside a building? Or does the slip on the open chat open it for camming?.

"(otherwise we can shut down 90% of the blogs and Flickr)"... Do they cam to take their pictures?; none of them should worry about the consecuences since it is "art"?

"it isnt about the sexplay of these 2, but about (Vints) moral dilemmas about posting this kind of stuff.."

Trembles before asking... this kind of stuff?

Dear Veronique... you should understand something... open sexual conducts are part of SL and, even if I understand that they should be kept away from eyes that can be hurted, your words show a pretty interesting tint...

My question about the pictures is if people should be allowed to cam and publish them, since only a blocked SIM can avoid this kind of things... and the only weak point I find is they used the open chat, probably exposing themselves to the public.

Your answer sounds like they are guilty because what they where doing, and that maked them lose their right to intimity...

I see you carefully avoided to answer my example of bald while wearing no matching underwear... tell me, is it different for you?.

Camming is bad, but it is a little sin... there are much worse ones. And maybe the "I am morally right to do this" is one of the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*smiles evily*</p>
<p>&#8220;My point is that there is absolutely nothing unethical about exploring and entering PUBLIC AND ACCESSIBLE SIMs in SL, taking snapshots of the things and activities your see there, and posting them or comment on Flickr, Blogs, etc… that is what (for a big part) SL and SL related blogs are all about !&#8221;<br />
Exploring, entering, camming?</p>
<p>Even better&#8230; &#8220;PUBLIC AND ACCESSIBLE SIMs&#8221;&#8230; like all private residences whithout locked doors, security systems or red lines?.</p>
<p>&#8220;I DO see the difference, but again, this is about crossing a personal moral limit.&#8221;&#8230; I cannot disagree there, is that kind of personal moral limits that make that kind of picks illegal in RL *winks*.</p>
<p>&#8220;they themselfs too should have the awareness, or even the honesty and responsability, not to deploy these kind of activities, or at least not in a place where they can be observed..&#8221;&#8230; </p>
<p>I keep forgetting, wasn&#8217;t inside a building? Or does the slip on the open chat open it for camming?.</p>
<p>&#8220;(otherwise we can shut down 90% of the blogs and Flickr)&#8221;&#8230; Do they cam to take their pictures?; none of them should worry about the consecuences since it is &#8220;art&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8220;it isnt about the sexplay of these 2, but about (Vints) moral dilemmas about posting this kind of stuff..&#8221;</p>
<p>Trembles before asking&#8230; this kind of stuff?</p>
<p>Dear Veronique&#8230; you should understand something&#8230; open sexual conducts are part of SL and, even if I understand that they should be kept away from eyes that can be hurted, your words show a pretty interesting tint&#8230;</p>
<p>My question about the pictures is if people should be allowed to cam and publish them, since only a blocked SIM can avoid this kind of things&#8230; and the only weak point I find is they used the open chat, probably exposing themselves to the public.</p>
<p>Your answer sounds like they are guilty because what they where doing, and that maked them lose their right to intimity&#8230;</p>
<p>I see you carefully avoided to answer my example of bald while wearing no matching underwear&#8230; tell me, is it different for you?.</p>
<p>Camming is bad, but it is a little sin&#8230; there are much worse ones. And maybe the &#8220;I am morally right to do this&#8221; is one of the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: veronique kaminski</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4480</link>
		<dc:creator>veronique kaminski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/overheard-or-voyeurism-in-second-life/#comment-4480</guid>
		<description>oh, btw, I dont see that many comments of people "making fun of them" here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, btw, I dont see that many comments of people &#8220;making fun of them&#8221; here&#8230;</p>
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