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	<title>Comments on: Second Life, a world imagined, created, and owned by it&#8217;s residents no more.</title>
	<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: More of The Same on Trademarks &#124; VintFalken.com</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-42237</link>
		<dc:creator>More of The Same on Trademarks &#124; VintFalken.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-42237</guid>
		<description>[...] by it’s residents&#8216;? The virtual world era when we could still buy virtual land? First, Linden took &#8216;owned by it&#8217;s residents&#8217; away. We could create and imagine for them, but it was not our world any more. But they still sold us a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] by it’s residents&#8216;? The virtual world era when we could still buy virtual land? First, Linden took &#8216;owned by it&#8217;s residents&#8217; away. We could create and imagine for them, but it was not our world any more. But they still sold us a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Own the content, not the world &#124; VintFalken.com</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-11543</link>
		<dc:creator>Own the content, not the world &#124; VintFalken.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-11543</guid>
		<description>[...] I&#8217;m still *sobbing* over not owning the world, the beginning of Linden Lab&#8217;s statement on the Wonderland Scandal (aka Age Play, episode [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I&#8217;m still *sobbing* over not owning the world, the beginning of Linden Lab&#8217;s statement on the Wonderland Scandal (aka Age Play, episode [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Kailie Quinn (Katarina Malthus)</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8489</link>
		<dc:creator>Kailie Quinn (Katarina Malthus)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8489</guid>
		<description>Cynical.  I like it. I would say another way to analyze it is to assess as one of the contractual specifics of owning land is you owe taxes to the public service entity(ies) that have incorporated/acquired the land you are purchasing. Ownership changes hands. They can reclaim it under eminent domain, but only for public use, and they are required by law to give you fair recompense for said land.

And of course, this is the positive way to look at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynical.  I like it. I would say another way to analyze it is to assess as one of the contractual specifics of owning land is you owe taxes to the public service entity(ies) that have incorporated/acquired the land you are purchasing. Ownership changes hands. They can reclaim it under eminent domain, but only for public use, and they are required by law to give you fair recompense for said land.</p>
<p>And of course, this is the positive way to look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: dandellion Kimban</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8474</link>
		<dc:creator>dandellion Kimban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8474</guid>
		<description>No Vint, you never own the land in RL too. The state owns it, and gives it to you for permanent use. The atavisms of feudal system. King owns everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Vint, you never own the land in RL too. The state owns it, and gives it to you for permanent use. The atavisms of feudal system. King owns everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8420</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8420</guid>
		<description>&lt;font color="white"&gt;I noticed this as well, and also followed around the links and saw the "owned" is still there, and also here, where it counts:

secondlife.com/whatis/land.php

On the front page it says "Get" virtual land, as if you can no longer "own" it. But inside, on this instructional page, it says "own virtual land".

Benjamin Duranske, ever the legend in his own mind, is not performing any rocket science here. Many people, even not being "lawyers," will have instantly grasped that it has to do with the Bragg case, and the challenge to the rhetoric about ownership. And it may be that the Lindens haven't gotten around to fixing these inner pages yet, and they bear watching.

What's more important than Bragg driving the new TOS drop-down and the removal of this rhetoric is the announcement about the new grid plan, open architecture, and open source. Because the Lindens want to make sure, when they go open source and devalue land and content completely, and disrupt the resident-created economy, that they will not have to face any significant lawsuits -- lawsuits that will have a lot more community support and legitimacy than Bragg's. They will both make it easy to pay off some smaller suits should they legitimately arise, and make it harder for those with larger holdings and creation to litigate without facing some losses.

You don't own the right to land where an apartment is, that's misguided. You own the access to your condo in that building complex. Owning a condo indeed is a lot like owning the server space in SL.

The Lindens aren't at all in deep shit with Bragg. I'm quite sure they will prevail. They're defense is correct.&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font color="white">I noticed this as well, and also followed around the links and saw the &#8220;owned&#8221; is still there, and also here, where it counts:</p>
<p>secondlife.com/whatis/land.php</p>
<p>On the front page it says &#8220;Get&#8221; virtual land, as if you can no longer &#8220;own&#8221; it. But inside, on this instructional page, it says &#8220;own virtual land&#8221;.</p>
<p>Benjamin Duranske, ever the legend in his own mind, is not performing any rocket science here. Many people, even not being &#8220;lawyers,&#8221; will have instantly grasped that it has to do with the Bragg case, and the challenge to the rhetoric about ownership. And it may be that the Lindens haven&#8217;t gotten around to fixing these inner pages yet, and they bear watching.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more important than Bragg driving the new TOS drop-down and the removal of this rhetoric is the announcement about the new grid plan, open architecture, and open source. Because the Lindens want to make sure, when they go open source and devalue land and content completely, and disrupt the resident-created economy, that they will not have to face any significant lawsuits &#8212; lawsuits that will have a lot more community support and legitimacy than Bragg&#8217;s. They will both make it easy to pay off some smaller suits should they legitimately arise, and make it harder for those with larger holdings and creation to litigate without facing some losses.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t own the right to land where an apartment is, that&#8217;s misguided. You own the access to your condo in that building complex. Owning a condo indeed is a lot like owning the server space in SL.</p>
<p>The Lindens aren&#8217;t at all in deep shit with Bragg. I&#8217;m quite sure they will prevail. They&#8217;re defense is correct.</font></p>
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		<title>By: Kailie Quinn (Katarina Malthus)</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8381</link>
		<dc:creator>Kailie Quinn (Katarina Malthus)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8381</guid>
		<description>There are generally either federal, state, local, or complex tenant laws that prohibit that practice in RL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are generally either federal, state, local, or complex tenant laws that prohibit that practice in RL.</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8375</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8375</guid>
		<description>I was thinking, if you compare it to an appartement: if you own an appartement you own the right to a part of the land it's build upon, right? Then if you own all the appartements, you own the complete plot of land? Then if you own enough SL land that you fill up a whole server, do you own the server itself? :D

&lt;em&gt;(Disclaimer: the owner did not have any coffee today.)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking, if you compare it to an appartement: if you own an appartement you own the right to a part of the land it&#8217;s build upon, right? Then if you own all the appartements, you own the complete plot of land? Then if you own enough SL land that you fill up a whole server, do you own the server itself? :D</p>
<p><em>(Disclaimer: the owner did not have any coffee today.)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Gaynor Gritzi</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8362</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaynor Gritzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8362</guid>
		<description>@dandellion Kimban....
I was talking about the "land" - really just a bit of server space that you rent, and that you will never own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dandellion Kimban&#8230;.<br />
I was talking about the &#8220;land&#8221; - really just a bit of server space that you rent, and that you will never own.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhelle Alacrity</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8352</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhelle Alacrity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8352</guid>
		<description>Presumably everybody else signed the new 'terms'' without reading it. I've always said that the title to land in this place is extremely dodgy. But equally my guess is that Linden Labs are in deep shit in this lawsuit and the new "terms" are a desperate attempt on the part of their lawyers to drag them out of it. I doubt theywould stand up retrospectively in any court of law. I'm going to enjoy watching them sinking into it. Fortunately I'm not one of those self-appointed land lords who've spent real money to perticipate in one of the most inequitable "land ownership" systems that I've ever seen. It's like prostitution. You sell it, you've still got it. The judge will have fun with that. My exposure is a few tens of bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably everybody else signed the new &#8216;terms&#8221; without reading it. I&#8217;ve always said that the title to land in this place is extremely dodgy. But equally my guess is that Linden Labs are in deep shit in this lawsuit and the new &#8220;terms&#8221; are a desperate attempt on the part of their lawyers to drag them out of it. I doubt theywould stand up retrospectively in any court of law. I&#8217;m going to enjoy watching them sinking into it. Fortunately I&#8217;m not one of those self-appointed land lords who&#8217;ve spent real money to perticipate in one of the most inequitable &#8220;land ownership&#8221; systems that I&#8217;ve ever seen. It&#8217;s like prostitution. You sell it, you&#8217;ve still got it. The judge will have fun with that. My exposure is a few tens of bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: dandellion Kimban</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8347</link>
		<dc:creator>dandellion Kimban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-a-world-imagined-created-and-owned-by-its-residents-no-more/#comment-8347</guid>
		<description>*giggles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*giggles</p>
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