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	<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/</link>
	<description>Exporting an SL photographer's Second Life</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 11:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shooting ones&#8217; self in the foot &#171; Sio&#8217;s Second Life</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-41277</link>
		<dc:creator>Shooting ones&#8217; self in the foot &#171; Sio&#8217;s Second Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-41277</guid>
		<description>[...] people are talking about this all over the blogsphere, from famous bloggers like Vint Falken and Codebastard Redgrave to &#8230; well, you won&#8217;t have to search very hard to find [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] people are talking about this all over the blogsphere, from famous bloggers like Vint Falken and Codebastard Redgrave to &#8230; well, you won&#8217;t have to search very hard to find [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Bhelle Alacrity</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-38428</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhelle Alacrity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-38428</guid>
		<description>As I always say, there's not a snowball's chance in Hell that any court of law anywhere on earth would defend the trademark Second Life. Just ignore them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I always say, there&#8217;s not a snowball&#8217;s chance in Hell that any court of law anywhere on earth would defend the trademark Second Life. Just ignore them.</p>
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		<title>By: Gita Rau</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-36436</link>
		<dc:creator>Gita Rau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-36436</guid>
		<description>I will assume Kasumi is correct, it seems reasonable (Hahahahah, since when are corporations reasonable?). I would hate to have to rename all of those Flickr groups!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will assume Kasumi is correct, it seems reasonable (Hahahahah, since when are corporations reasonable?). I would hate to have to rename all of those Flickr groups!</p>
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		<title>By: Siobhan Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-36131</link>
		<dc:creator>Siobhan Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-36131</guid>
		<description>They do seem to be expert at shooting themselves in the foot!

I'm honestly not sure how to react myself. I mean, my blog has been called "Sio's Second Life" since 2004, and even linked to by LL occasionally. I guess it comes under the umbrella of prior-art, but not being a lawyer, I don't know for sure.

I suppose I'll end up renaming it and just not blogging about their laggy little world any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do seem to be expert at shooting themselves in the foot!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m honestly not sure how to react myself. I mean, my blog has been called &#8220;Sio&#8217;s Second Life&#8221; since 2004, and even linked to by LL occasionally. I guess it comes under the umbrella of prior-art, but not being a lawyer, I don&#8217;t know for sure.</p>
<p>I suppose I&#8217;ll end up renaming it and just not blogging about their laggy little world any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Pix Paz</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-36016</link>
		<dc:creator>Pix Paz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-36016</guid>
		<description>I think Kasumi is on the right track here and put this down to Linden Labs not explaining themselves and what they are trying to achieve properly.

Isn't this a ham fisted attempt to curb the use of "SL-blah" type names for things that may damage or dilute their overall brand. 

Similar to Apple trying to restrict people making products with the name blah-pod etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kasumi is on the right track here and put this down to Linden Labs not explaining themselves and what they are trying to achieve properly.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this a ham fisted attempt to curb the use of &#8220;SL-blah&#8221; type names for things that may damage or dilute their overall brand. </p>
<p>Similar to Apple trying to restrict people making products with the name blah-pod etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Kasumi Rieko</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35794</link>
		<dc:creator>Kasumi Rieko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35794</guid>
		<description>I think it is safe to say, if you are planning on selling something and use SL in reference to the product, you should be using SL™, like ([b][i]This New Advance Laptop for only $999.99 can perform at top efficiency even in the world of SL™[/i][/b]).  If you were just talking about SL, then the ™ would not be needed.  Do we ever type a ™ when talking about for example:  Mc Donalds, Pizza Hut or Microsoft?

I have read about bloggers worried about past content.  I would also think that older posts (or photos that have the logo takien in it) with the fact that these are “time stamped” before this change took place would also be fine. You can’t really go back and rewrite history everytime someone changes something to a company. This would more relate to “Headers” and “Footers” on a website that are part of the main design or for advertising.

Basically, as long as you are not making money off of their name, their lawyers won’t come after you and you won’t need to worry to much about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is safe to say, if you are planning on selling something and use SL in reference to the product, you should be using SL™, like ([b][i]This New Advance Laptop for only $999.99 can perform at top efficiency even in the world of SL™[/i][/b]).  If you were just talking about SL, then the ™ would not be needed.  Do we ever type a ™ when talking about for example:  Mc Donalds, Pizza Hut or Microsoft?</p>
<p>I have read about bloggers worried about past content.  I would also think that older posts (or photos that have the logo takien in it) with the fact that these are “time stamped” before this change took place would also be fine. You can’t really go back and rewrite history everytime someone changes something to a company. This would more relate to “Headers” and “Footers” on a website that are part of the main design or for advertising.</p>
<p>Basically, as long as you are not making money off of their name, their lawyers won’t come after you and you won’t need to worry to much about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusan Writer</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35770</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusan Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35770</guid>
		<description>Bang on Vint as always.

With a possible blog strike approaching I'll start casting my eye to other platforms so I've got something to think about during the big freeze...geez, sure hope I don't STAY in one of them.

The Name Who Must Be Obeyed really doesn't get it. Interesting, I made an aside comment on the 3DVIA Shape application for 3D modeling in my follow-up posts on this topic, and someone from the company jumped onto the blog and asked id I wanted to discuss ideas on how they could improve it for better integration with VW platforms. When was the last time a Linden did the same?

They have a right to protect their trademarks. They're like seals of approval, and that has value. But when they're sealing approval on something which is gaining less and less approval, they might be sealing their own doom. What galls me is how they've managed YET AGAIN to mismanage communication. I keep dreaming that they'll properly set-up a proper developer's relationship program of some sort, but they can't even keep their current constituency properly informed and engaged let alone sketch out plans, schedules, and excite potential content partners and developers.

Philip must be chanting in a corner somewhere about the great nirvana ahead and trying to duck into the broom closet when the lawyers and venture guys stalk the hall, because someone isn't managing decisions that are far more global that offering a useless logo to the masses (who the heck in meat space is going to know what "inSL" stands for anyways? May be fine for in world, but even on that front it's a couple of letters being burped out of a broken prim, so not only is the whole thing poorly managed but the new logo is awful to boot).

OK...so if you had a choice...There.Com, RealXtend, or suck it up and just head for OpenSim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bang on Vint as always.</p>
<p>With a possible blog strike approaching I&#8217;ll start casting my eye to other platforms so I&#8217;ve got something to think about during the big freeze&#8230;geez, sure hope I don&#8217;t STAY in one of them.</p>
<p>The Name Who Must Be Obeyed really doesn&#8217;t get it. Interesting, I made an aside comment on the 3DVIA Shape application for 3D modeling in my follow-up posts on this topic, and someone from the company jumped onto the blog and asked id I wanted to discuss ideas on how they could improve it for better integration with VW platforms. When was the last time a Linden did the same?</p>
<p>They have a right to protect their trademarks. They&#8217;re like seals of approval, and that has value. But when they&#8217;re sealing approval on something which is gaining less and less approval, they might be sealing their own doom. What galls me is how they&#8217;ve managed YET AGAIN to mismanage communication. I keep dreaming that they&#8217;ll properly set-up a proper developer&#8217;s relationship program of some sort, but they can&#8217;t even keep their current constituency properly informed and engaged let alone sketch out plans, schedules, and excite potential content partners and developers.</p>
<p>Philip must be chanting in a corner somewhere about the great nirvana ahead and trying to duck into the broom closet when the lawyers and venture guys stalk the hall, because someone isn&#8217;t managing decisions that are far more global that offering a useless logo to the masses (who the heck in meat space is going to know what &#8220;inSL&#8221; stands for anyways? May be fine for in world, but even on that front it&#8217;s a couple of letters being burped out of a broken prim, so not only is the whole thing poorly managed but the new logo is awful to boot).</p>
<p>OK&#8230;so if you had a choice&#8230;There.Com, RealXtend, or suck it up and just head for OpenSim?</p>
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		<title>By: Dedric Mauriac</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35708</link>
		<dc:creator>Dedric Mauriac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35708</guid>
		<description>I wonder if we'll get a friendly notice, warning, cease and desist letter, account permaband, or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if we&#8217;ll get a friendly notice, warning, cease and desist letter, account permaband, or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35670</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35670</guid>
		<description>QueenKelly, they did &lt;a href="http://www.vintfalken.com/beware-of-modify-theft-in-the-lift-or-residents-just-more-concious/" rel="nofollow"&gt;already two years ago&lt;/a&gt;. They are acknowledging, but not executing much of their 'this could be a solutions'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QueenKelly, they did <a href="http://www.vintfalken.com/beware-of-modify-theft-in-the-lift-or-residents-just-more-concious/" rel="nofollow">already two years ago</a>. They are acknowledging, but not executing much of their &#8216;this could be a solutions&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: QueenKellee Kuu</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35660</link>
		<dc:creator>QueenKellee Kuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/second-life-fankit-or-insl/#comment-35660</guid>
		<description>Bing Bing Bing...right on Vint. Some kind of signpost...anything..

And they should have never done this without at least publicly acknowledging something--anything--about the content theft issue before springing this. Even if it was just "we know it's a problem, we're looking into more robust solutions?" blah blah 

Do they not have a PR department? Or if they do, should they all be fired for doing such a crap job? Does anyone in Linden Lab (now i forget if LL is tm or r oh screw it) realize or care at all how this looks/feels to the average resident? Or are they stuck in mute because the lawyers tell 'em they can't talk about it?

The whole thing leaves me with such a slimy feeling. Ick. Now I gotta go take (another) shower....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bing Bing Bing&#8230;right on Vint. Some kind of signpost&#8230;anything..</p>
<p>And they should have never done this without at least publicly acknowledging something&#8211;anything&#8211;about the content theft issue before springing this. Even if it was just &#8220;we know it&#8217;s a problem, we&#8217;re looking into more robust solutions?&#8221; blah blah </p>
<p>Do they not have a PR department? Or if they do, should they all be fired for doing such a crap job? Does anyone in Linden Lab (now i forget if LL is tm or r oh screw it) realize or care at all how this looks/feels to the average resident? Or are they stuck in mute because the lawyers tell &#8216;em they can&#8217;t talk about it?</p>
<p>The whole thing leaves me with such a slimy feeling. Ick. Now I gotta go take (another) shower&#8230;.</p>
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