Comments on: Second Life web resources for October 26th 2007 through October 27th 2007

By: Vint Falken

Vint Falken — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:08:27 +0000

I must say that I did not know that. Actually I don’t think I know much from him, besides the war poem and the ‘goodmorning…’ thingie. /me prefers Paul Snoek. ;)

By: Veronique Kaminski

Veronique Kaminski — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:41:16 +0000

When I hear these arguments of anti-SL-ists, they claim many times that compared to SL users, they DO have a social life.

Many times this “social life” refers to the fact that they go to “real” bars, discotheques etc.. and that they make love to “real” people…
I am pretty sure most SL’rs do these things too..
But mostly, these kind of descriptions of social life remind me of the poem “Bar” by flemish dadaist/expresionist poet Paul Van Ostaijen…

http://users.pandora.be/gaston.d.haese/bar.html

(or.. for the non-dutch speaking amongst us:)

BAR

The bar is empty

and filled up with people

(sometimes mistakenly cited as : “the bar is full, with empty people” … but saying pretty much the same thing..)

By: Veronique Kaminski

Veronique Kaminski — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:45:08 +0000

mmm… Kean Kelly was apparently also shocked by this same Flickr “discussion”..

But since I still suffer from blisters on my fingers after commenting on her blog, and I grant her some traffic too, allow me to just add a link to my comment there Vint??

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2699020365526937506&postID=2352482361861206676

By: Vint Falken

Vint Falken — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:56:56 +0000

Many of the people posting there might become future politicians and rule the world I happen to live in. => Or worse! Imagine them being LL board members! ;)

By: dandellion Kimban

dandellion Kimban — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:35:15 +0000

Gwyn, getting into that discussion is losing of time and nerves without any reason. It is worse than talking with that yellow-haired guy with monocle.

By: Gwyneth Llewelyn

Gwyneth Llewelyn — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:15:37 +0000

I saw that forum thread and I got this violent urge to knock some heads around :)

Seriously… “photography is an art form that requires light photons” is ludicrous. The last time I checked, a CRT or a LCD also emit photons.

Not to mention that people tended to say the usual things about “getting a life” etc. which frankly start to become very boring. It’s amazing how the 21st century has people sitting in front of computers, using the Internet, using a picture of a plastic soldier as their avatar, and have the nerve to post things like “Second Life users should not post pictures on Flickr and are a sad crowd”. For Christ’s sake! If these people had been hired by Torquemada, we’d be all burning on a bonfire!

The average IQ of the poster on that thread was about 100 divided by the number of posters. Sincerely, I’m truly shocked. People are more closed-minded these days than during the Dark Ages. I guess I’m worried. Many of the people posting there might become future politicians and rule the world I happen to live in.

Luckily, commenting on that thread required joining a group (one that I now have all the reason to despise!) so that made me refrain my flaming mood :)

By: Raul Crimson

Raul Crimson — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:20:42 +0000

Thanks, Dandellion, interesting article. :-)

By: dandellion Kimban

dandellion Kimban — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:31:47 +0000

I’ll hijack (or whatever the spellin is) Vint’s thread to give Raul a link about SL as a game: http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2007/the-game-of-second-life

By: Raul Crimson

Raul Crimson — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:21:08 +0000

I’m with you in this, Vint. I’m not my avatar, but my avatar is me. Is the expression of me i want to share with other “residents”. Anyway, i’m still not sure to call SL a game, we are not playing in the sense there is no an objective. We are just expressing ourselves, so i prefer to call is a platform.

And for that comments in Flickr, well, some people need to get a life, first of second, and critizise is cheap and empty when you don’t try to understand and respect.

By: Vint Falken

Vint Falken — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:44:09 +0000

I do not believe ‘I am my avatar’. But I am Vint Falken. Just as I’m a different Ann when going to work then I am when hanging out with my friends. And an even more different when meeting my parents, … etc. If we are dropped in different surroundings, our personalities change as to match that surrounding. Just for kicks, this one is not called Ann. =)

What’s SL more or less then just another game? Although First Life Law is a bit more extended and the First life community guidelines are even more hypocrite and confusing as the Second Life ones and there are some basic differences like feeling pain, hunger, … ?

Thank you for your concern, but me and my human are doing fine. If we have any issues that need counselling, rest assure that those issues are not Second Life related. =)