Comments on: SL Photographs: CGI, screenshots or art? http://www.vintfalken.com/sl-photographs-cgi-screenshots-or-art/ Exporting an SL photographer's Second Life Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:17:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: CodeBastard Redgrave http://www.vintfalken.com/sl-photographs-cgi-screenshots-or-art/#comment-619 CodeBastard Redgrave Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:18:47 +0000 http://www.vintfalken.com/sl-photographs-cgi-screenshots-or-art/#comment-619 I would tend to disagree with that on you Vint. A screenshot, by definition amyway, is an interface screen capture. Secondlife photo, any SL photo, are NOT screenshots by definition. If they were we would see the entire interface. I think SL is unique and special in that way. The way the camera works, lighting, effects, makes Secondlife captures work like RL photography. Of course, then it is for each individual case and for each individual to juge how artistic a picture is. But the fact that I'm taking photojournalistic pictures (as Zoe puts it so well), everyday shots, action shots, or whatever type of photography, does NOT make it less of a photography, whenever you judge it is artistic or not. This debate can bring you back at the time photo artists were considering Photoshop artists as false artists because they used a computer. Or when sculptors were considering painters non-artists because of the unpure medium. Art evolves. So we are left with ONLY one, all-in-one category to fit all of Secondlife photography. Not discerning artistic vs. everyday photo in the filters? I have absolutely no problem with that. I think this is the precise reason why Flickr mixed all those categories (art, cgi, illustration, non RL photo), apart from the screenshots. So that's why my entire 2300 pictures, that includes real art, photojournalistic or my everyday life family shots, has all been tagged CGI/illustration/art/non-photo. Those 2 filter categories on Flickr had been created for one reason: separating a picture you can enjoy even if the compo is bad, and the screenshots of your Windows Vista crashing. Its artistic versus technical. Period. I don't think that any SL picture can be classified as technical information screenshot. This is why I invite ALL of Secondlife Flickrites to tag ALL of their pictures as CGI/art/illustration/non-photo whenever it is artistic or not. Love Codie I would tend to disagree with that on you Vint. A screenshot, by definition amyway, is an interface screen capture. Secondlife photo, any SL photo, are NOT screenshots by definition. If they were we would see the entire interface.

I think SL is unique and special in that way. The way the camera works, lighting, effects, makes Secondlife captures work like RL photography.

Of course, then it is for each individual case and for each individual to juge how artistic a picture is. But the fact that I’m taking photojournalistic pictures (as Zoe puts it so well), everyday shots, action shots, or whatever type of photography, does NOT make it less of a photography, whenever you judge it is artistic or not.

This debate can bring you back at the time photo artists were considering Photoshop artists as false artists because they used a computer. Or when sculptors were considering painters non-artists because of the unpure medium. Art evolves.

So we are left with ONLY one, all-in-one category to fit all of Secondlife photography. Not discerning artistic vs. everyday photo in the filters? I have absolutely no problem with that. I think this is the precise reason why Flickr mixed all those categories (art, cgi, illustration, non RL photo), apart from the screenshots.

So that’s why my entire 2300 pictures, that includes real art, photojournalistic or my everyday life family shots, has all been tagged CGI/illustration/art/non-photo.

Those 2 filter categories on Flickr had been created for one reason: separating a picture you can enjoy even if the compo is bad, and the screenshots of your Windows Vista crashing.

Its artistic versus technical. Period. I don’t think that any SL picture can be classified as technical information screenshot. This is why I invite ALL of Secondlife Flickrites to tag ALL of their pictures as CGI/art/illustration/non-photo whenever it is artistic or not.

Love

Codie

]]> By: Alexander Burgess http://www.vintfalken.com/sl-photographs-cgi-screenshots-or-art/#comment-604 Alexander Burgess Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:45:03 +0000 http://www.vintfalken.com/sl-photographs-cgi-screenshots-or-art/#comment-604 I think this is just one more example of human prejudice against AVs. It's designed to further shackle us, keep us from usurping what they see as their control. But in actuality, it is simply more evidence of their growing fear. I say, let them try. Eventually we win. We know the truth:it's all information. Even they are nothing more than information. Meat... bah! It's an illusion. I think this is just one more example of human prejudice against AVs. It’s designed to further shackle us, keep us from usurping what they see as their control. But in actuality, it is simply more evidence of their growing fear. I say, let them try. Eventually we win. We know the truth:it’s all information. Even they are nothing more than information. Meat… bah! It’s an illusion.

]]> By: Zoe Connolly http://www.vintfalken.com/sl-photographs-cgi-screenshots-or-art/#comment-602 Zoe Connolly Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:25:32 +0000 http://www.vintfalken.com/sl-photographs-cgi-screenshots-or-art/#comment-602 I would never consider my own screenshots as art. I prefer to think of them as more like photojournalism. Yours my dear Vint are most definitely art. Hope to see you in person (or pixel) this weekend. I would never consider my own screenshots as art. I prefer to think of them as more like photojournalism.

Yours my dear Vint are most definitely art.

Hope to see you in person (or pixel) this weekend.

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