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When Lindens announced that all avatars would be welcome to build at the Second Life 5th Birthday Event - that includes child avatars, Goreans and the BDSM scene - and buildings would be reviewed fairly, without prejudices, I was relieved: as long as they were PG*** - blah, PG! - and made with decent virtual mortar and stone, it would be fine. Our virtual world, their trade demo. So be it, if it is to the benefit of our virtual world: new capital, better servers, somebody working on a new mesh, whatever. Not ‘woot!’ happy of course, we all KNOW if people take PG to the extent where all nipples are 3v1l and of limits it gets rather boring quickly, but still, at least all members of the Second Life community were again allowed to display their work at SL5B. Or aren’t they?

Latest concerning news about SL5B is that Lindens abandoned all family values, and are willing to tear child avies away from there worried parents. *evil Linden God’s voice* No longer shall thou picture your virtual families! No longer shall thou be allowed to take family snapshots when on an outing to the Hawaii Zoo! Thou shall in no way and under no circumstances picture an adult and child avatar in the same virtual photograph! *end Linden-god-tone* Sounds a little bit crazy if child avatars are allowed to walk on the same sims as adults do? And nothing wrong can be depicted as it all must PG anyway? Nope, this is exactly what Mr Stephen Venkman got to hear from ‘dze Lindens’. They forbid him to show snapshots of his virtual family at SL5B! Comments quote Dusty Linden as saying: ‘If you can agree:not to show kid AVs with Adult AVs (unless specifically OK’d by LL)and that LL reserves the right to adjust images, themes, etc. to address this concern…’ about another application.

SL5B Evolutionary Time Line

  1. SL4B: Resident run. You get to pick if you are on a mature or PG sim. A bit laggy, but all fine and in good spirit.
  2. SL5B: All sims are Mature, but ‘KIDs’* is advised.
  3. SL5B: Buildings from the child avatar community, goreans and BDSM are rejected.
  4. SL5B: Lindens take SL5B away from the community. Linden has the last and official call.
  5. SL5B: All avatars are allowed, but everything needs to be PG.
  6. SL5B: Photographs of fully dressed child avatars doing normal childlike things with their family are FORBIDDEN.

Now WTVF**?! Looks likes we’re in a fast pace evolving back to 19th century. Oh no wait, even then it was perfectly OK to picture a child and adult on the seaside, as long as they were dressed in those really long vintage bathing suits. Family photographs being evil, is this a 21th century invention then? Something that comes with the digital age?

JIRA ISSUE MISC-1231

Sean Heying beat me to it, but I hereby declare the JIRA ISSUE MISC-1231 Missing Cultures and Communities from SL5B as ‘reopened’. If we did not get your vote yet, please go there and vote! It’s easy.

Oh, and normally this should not be necessary, and Lindens should notice there’s something wrong as their event volunteers & organisers are redrawing from their positions one by one.

Call for your RL family photographs

From Shoshana Epsilons’s blog: Now they are saying “you can’t have a picture of a child and an adult in the same picture.” That’s STUPID. Their statement should be “we’ll evaluate each picture on a case-by-case basis” and then decide each picture on its REAL MERITS. They also said “no pictures of children around beds”. So, kids, don’t jump on the beds and don’t crawl into your cribs!

Content: Young Family Vint (RL version)Sho is one of the lead organisers of SL5B - the SLart department - and does another call out: I want to donate my display to a protest. If you have any clean and wholesome family-type RL pictures that YOU OWN ALL RIGHTS TO, please send them to me in-world. I will heavily moderate the pictures, so not all pictures will be allowed. I expect good quality art pictures that are wholesome. Credits will be given to the photographer. So I’ve decided to pitch in. It’s not a real artsy photograph, but it’s a family photograph from the small Vint - estimated 3 or 4 years old - that I hold dearly. I guess in the end, they almost thought me that art is not about ‘prettiness’, but about having something to say about the society you live in. Art is always an analysis of that. Combined with my feelings, the fact that I am actually willing to show off the 4y old me, says enough about how I feel about our virtual society at the moment. I hope Sho will include it. I even asked permission from the parents - the real ones, obviously - to publish it.

Now, if you did not do so already, get your ass over to that Jira Issue and VOTE!

* KIDs = Keep it Decent, stupid!
** WTVF = What the Virtual Fuck
*** PG = Parental Guidance or Puritan Guided. Depends on whom you ask.

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10 Responses to “SL5B Continued - Breaking up the families”

stephen venkman wrote a comment on June 12, 2008
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You Rock in so many ways Vint! Thank you for your posts. Thank you for all the hard work you do for everyone in our virtual community. Thank you from all those who come behind us and create their virtual families…whatever they may be.

ColeMarie Soleil wrote a comment on June 12, 2008
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May I point out all it takes is a magazine taking pictures of stephens exhibit and writing up a twisted article that takes it out of context and then you have a mess linden labs isn’t willing to take on.
I don’t blame them.
Sorry.

Raul Crimson wrote a comment on June 12, 2008
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Well said, Vint, can’t be louder but not clearer!

Vint Falken wrote a comment on June 12, 2008
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ColeMarie, isn’t _that_ why they hire a PR agency? Maybe, they can think pro-active, and even build something themselves that tells a bit more about all avie kinds in SL, thus also the child avies? That way they can even refer to games such as Zelda where it is totally normal that an adult plays with an underage avatar?

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nimil wrote a comment on June 13, 2008
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i’ve commented on venk’s stream and sue’s stream but i’d like to copy those comments onto here because i think they raise interesting questions especially since cole states that LL is trying to protect itself

i fail to see how showing families engaging in normal family activities that people do in real life every day could be concidered something to ban from a celebration of our world…

in my opinion, instead of banning them, sl should allow them the ability to show that it’s not some underground freak show but instead a normal and wonderful roleplay that can be theraputic for everyone involved. by trying to keep it hidden or underwraps, they give it the appearance that something dirty or bad is going on when nothing actually is. these exibits can even give the other citizens of second life the chance to understand the lives of people in these families and perhaps open their mind a little…

LL is not protecting themselves, they are making fools of themselves…

what i really think is odd is the fact that they think they need to protect themselves from the rl press seeing images of adult avatars in even close proximity to child avatars when any rl press agent can just as easily look at flickr and see those exact photos, or even if one went to an alternative sl5b location and saw photos like what venk is presenting.

and seriously what respeciable journalist is going to see a mom and dad sitting with their child or doing something family friendly as something offensive?? and if they do see that as offensive they should probably be seeking a mental health assessment.

what it really looks like is a way to enforce the original rule of no child avatar exibits by making the stipulations completely rediculous…

naima aya wrote a comment on June 13, 2008
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Hi Vint,

I’m following with attention this issue and some LL actions and in my special opinion I do understand that LL has their concerns created a rule (without think in other communities) but really they forget the “basic”, and in this case basic thought is that SLB5 it’s a hole celebration on the Grid. I’m thinking if the SLB6 will be only for LL employers lmao.

I really agree with their worries about the child AV (first time a saw any news about http://news.cnet.com/5208-1043-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=15433&messageID=130097&start=-184), and all problematic questions that pop up with this behavior and some positive actions take after that, of course I can’t agree with child Av’s and sex related mix with other conservative meanings, but the real truth about the grid is that some adult AV could be actually a kid behind the screen and this kid can live an entire 2nd life with no big limitations (its a challenger to control it).

But the real question on this date (SLB5) will be such a challenger to join all the community or if LL is trying to show how much power they have to control SL when deeply they really can’t control it (in the full meaning of the word). Because mature content and child AV can not be together but they could celebrate such an important date since they are truly the residents like us, so what is the real meaning of the SLB5 this year? I think I missed something during last LL actions (I’m not against them, but I really don’t understand completely what they are doing).

Oppression is not the answer . Makes any sense some celebrate and others that belong to the big family are banned from the family party?

Vint Falken wrote a comment on June 13, 2008
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or if LL is trying to show how much power they have to control SL when deeply they really can’t control it (in the full meaning of the word)

Now that, Naima, is an interesting questions. If indeed they are trying to control they can moderate what type of content is published in our Beloved Brave New Virtual World, this is a - rather pathetic - attempt?

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