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MISC-1231 - Missing Cultures & Communities from SL5B

Jira Issue ‘MISC-1231 Missing Cultures & Communities from SL5B’ is up to 147 votes. Which is less than I expected. I heard a lot of comments that say ‘but I don’t know how to vote on JIRA’, so here you go: ‘how to vote on JIRA issues’.

  1. Go to the JIRA issue MISC 1231
  2. On the left, under ‘Operations‘ it says: ‘If you were logged in you would be able to see more operations.’ Click ‘logged in‘ to log in. (Clicking it here will take you to the correct JIRA issue too.)
  3. It will ask for your avatar name and password. It’s a Linden Lab service, so you can safely give them your password. Fill out your data and press ‘LOGIN’. You will be taken to the JIRA issue MISC-1231.
  4. In the left menu you will see: ‘Voting: You have not voted for this issue. Vote for it if you wish it to be fixed.’ Click ‘vote for it’. Et voila… ;)

There were a lot of - jira style - humorous comments on this thread, but the ones that really said it the best, is Shoshana Epsilon’s: ‘So, it appears that no applications from child avatars will be accepted. That means there will be no bouncy castles or avatar canons or swing sets. No play ground. No Marianne.‘ *pinks away a virtual tear*

Everett Linden comments on SL5B

Everett Linden commented on Massively’s ‘Calling All Cultures Not Anymore’ saying:

‘Hey everyone…there’s a lot of misunderstanding here, so let me try to articulate our policy here. Child avatars are welcome at the celebration. However, we do respectfully decline the submissions we received to create exhibits for the event. Goreans, role-players, and members of the multitude of international communities are all welcome, and I hope you come.’ and The SL Birthday on Linden land is PG.

This means ‘they’ downgraded from an mixed area (PG & Mature) at SL4B to only PG sims on SL5B. Something that was definitely not in the original draft/policy for SL5B which stated ‘All sims will be Mature’. Last time I checked, 78% of all regions in Second Life were ‘mature’ - which does not necessary mean they contain mature content, but still. So only 22% of the whole of Second Life may be represented at Second Life’s 5th Birthday Celebration?

I can’t start to describe how totally twisted the ‘we allow them as visitors but do not accept their builds/wish to recognise them as a community’ is. But basically it comes down to this: feel free to drop by and populate our sims and live here, it’s good for our statistics. But, please, don’t show yourself when Real Life is around. Kind of reminds me of that country that ships off a certain percentage of their population in garbage trucks when they have a lot of journalists around for a big event.

Jacek maybe expressed this best: ‘But Linden Lab, it seems, doesn’t want its Residents anymore. It doesn’t want a free, open, creative world. It wants a sanitized, media-friendly world, that universities and big corps won’t think twice about making major investments in. LL’s message for Residents now is: Thanks for making us so popular, but go away now. You’re embarrassing us in front of the cool kids.

Annette Blachere’s SL4B nightmares became reality

Last year, Annette Blachere’s photography exhibition was one of the most talked about at SL4B : Annette was picturing her worst nightmares for the future of child avatars in Second Life. Annette got crucified, attacked by monsters, … . (I’m still trying to track down some of the photographs she put on display at SL4B there, please IM when you have photographs of those photographs or can help reaching Annette!)

One of my friends, Bella March, was truly shocked by those images. Luckily, Bella has an open mind, and after some poking from my side, she went to talk to Annette, asking her why she did such terrible things to herself in the photographs. Here is the conversation, as recorded by Bella March at SL4B:

Bella : …but I find the pictures disturbing
Annette : why?
Bella : I keep thinking of my little girl when I see the pics
Annette : but the aim is to show a Nightmare that is happening in SL
Annette : I mean Bella… I don’t wanna die,
Annette : and I don’t wanna to be used as a sexual excuse inside SL…
Annette : I don’t want LL use us Children
Annette : as the excuse to ban different choices
Annette : and this are my NIGHTMARES!
Bella : but you must understand that your nightmares become mine too
Bella : Annette, hai paura di morire in SL - are you afraid to die in SL ?
Annette : Yes of course
Annette : from the last post of Linden Lab
Laetizia : I don’t think they are going to ban child avatars
Annette : it’s even a real possibility
Annette : I’m not so sure
Laetizia : children are not offensive
Omi : even i am worried
Bella : it’s what adults do to them that worries me
Laetizia : yes Bella
Laetizia : bambini non sono ‘broadly offensive’
Laetizia : if they want to ban kids, I will fight against that
Annette : Dank!
Bella : me too
Bella : with all my powers
Annette : I love you all!!
Annette : if you wanna a cookie just click my Sunflower
Laetizia : coalizione europea per i bambini :)

KIDS 5B

‘The Kids’ are going to throw their own 5th Birthday Celebration… celebrating the kids, and not Second Life. More information at the Kids5B blog. Looks like they already got things quite good together: some donations (more are always welcome, of course!), a sim, a layout for the festival… neat! I’ll certainly visit! Bring out the swings, and euh… hide those lollipops away as I will probably eat them all! *blushes* And maybe Lindens can move the SL5B sims next to the Kids5B one? ;)

Still frantically trying to keep an overview of all blogposts in the ‘SLogosphere’ about SL5B ft. (or minus) Child avatars. Feel free to poke me if I missed one!

8 Responses to “SL5B minus The Children”

Peter Stindberg wrote a comment on June 1, 2008
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What I don’t get: so submissions from the Kids community interfere with a sm being PG? I mean, where is the logic in that?

I never cared much for the Kid community, but what I saw from them is - well - kid’s stuff. The vry definition of the Kids community is that it *IS* PG. Or am I missing something?

Vint Falken wrote a comment on June 1, 2008
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The kids community is something LL does not want to be associated is. So they are not allowed to display at SL5B, not on a PG sim, nor on a mature sim. That kinda sums it up.

Second thing is that Everett Linden announced all SL5B sims to be PG, although last year (SL4B) you got to pick if you were to display on a PG or mature sim. Policy for this year’s SL5B as decided by the SL5B organisers stated that all sims would be mature, so that was a Linden-side decision.

dandellion Kimban wrote a comment on June 1, 2008
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There is no logic, Peter. If lindens were up to logic we wouldn’t have this conversation at all, but making a nice celebration.

Smiley Barry wrote a comment on June 1, 2008
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Ha, I wonder wether Linden will do TSL5B too with that ban. If they do, that would make even LESS logic than those -948,757,835,291 logic points below 0 that are currently the logic level of this whole deal. Though, I doubt they’re going to throw one here. It was lousy last year, too kiddy-like and nothing interactive was there. Plus there weren’t many people, at all. Who knows, maybe TSL5B is cancelled as the “cool kid” doesn’t want his mommy to scare off the rest of the kids like she did last year with all those balloons? :-P (Yep, we had TONS. Don’t know why. Too many.)

dandellion Kimban wrote a comment on June 1, 2008
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/me laughs on balloons.
Why I am not surprised. Regular adult usually fails to make differences between kids of different ages. As I remember TG is populated by people 13-18 years old. Not quite the “balloon age” but hey, who remembers that. *shooks head in disbelief*

kesseret wrote a comment on June 2, 2008
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Well, LL better do some fixing around here or this will be the LAST secondlife birthday celebration. Everyone will be celebrating the first/second year of Hipihi or something else…..

The policy on the child avatars is BS- they should be allowed just like other communities. We all make up SL, not just the ‘window dressing’ avatars that look good in the press.

Raul Crimson wrote a comment on June 2, 2008
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First, thanks for the JIRA issue, Vint.

Well, i presume the next year we should celebrate the SL5B for our own in an Opensim or something.

Ruslan Laryukov wrote a comment on June 4, 2008
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Vint, thx for your jira initiative on this issue. It is unusual for LL to reverse an announced decision, I have no doubt that the broad support for MISC-1231 played no small role in forcing LL to rethink this.

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