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SLangLife - already - fucks up privacy

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Rembember the option to have SLang Life - Second Life’s first ‘real paper’ magazine - send to you in an ‘discreet mail’ envelope? And Dandellion wondering about the lack of privacy policy on the SLang Life site, especially ask they ask for RL address data to send you the ‘discreet mail’ envelope?

‘Nevermind discreet’, Katty Dacosta over at SLang Life magazine office’s must have thought. Let’s send out reminder mails for subscription confirmation to about 80 persons a time with the subscribers’ e-mail addresses in the ‘To’ part. Most of them in the format ‘first name . last name @ provider / hotmail / gmail.com’. And I’m talking First Life first & last name here. I wonder how many mails like that were send. It seems this batch of 80 email addresses contained mostly e-mail addresses from .nl domains, and even one .pl. Together with some .fr and my .be one, I assume this was the Euro-batch? :d

So, SLangLife, never mind the discreet envelope! *waves at Familie De Bruin*

Ow, the email contained - except for the 80 personal First Life e-mail addresses - this text. Really not worth giving out the persons private data for this, I think:

We would like to remind that you have made the subscription at
www.slanglife.com. If you want to recive our magazine you should to
confirm your registration, otherwise we won’t be able to sent you our
first edition.
All information given in this form will be securely stored and used only
and exclusively for the dispatch of SL’ang Life to the address indicated
by you in the form.
In order to confirm registration just click the link you’ve received
from us after the subscription. If you can’t find our previous e-mail
you should to make another subscription at www.slanglife.com/subscription
If you have any questions - please ask me.

Deputy editor-in-chief
Katty Dacosta
SL’ang Life Magazine Team

And this, Dandellion, is the SLangLife’s privacy policy, which you were wondering about and which you agree with when you agree to subscribing to the magazine (press ‘accept’ in the confirmation e-mail):

I hereby give consent for my personal data to be inserted into database and processed now and in the future by the owner of SL’ang Life Magazine. => ‘Yes’

LMAO? :d On the other hand, if they do not use our data except for processing it over and over and over again, we can not really say they abuse it, as long as they don’t give it out or use it for spamming purposes? ;)

Update: Just realised now, shouldn’t this say something about how to get them to stop processing your date or to remove that real life data completely?!!

Update: SLangLife CEO Macciej Schumann responded with a forum post called ‘Privacy Policy‘. So in the end, something goods comes out of this: ‘In order to make the operation on your data trustworthy, we are currently working on a privacy policy.


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19 Responses to “SLangLife - already - fucks up privacy”

Rob Danton wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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Hahaha… I hope the mag is worth it! “Discreet” envelope or not :p

CodeBastard Redgrave wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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wwwow. that is a bit… scary

Flux Woyseck wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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Yea I noticed all that as well, but it was already too late. So eh, whatever, send me real life spam, I could use the firewood LOL

Vint wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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The spam is not the main issue here, Flux. A lot of people go through a big deal to keep their ‘First Life’ identities a well kept secret. Then it’s not that great a move to hand out first e-mail addresses. Ok, those people should not give their first life email address which contains their name to SLang Life, yet SLangLife is even more responsible to not hand these out to others. This is a major fuck up on that part!

If you send an e-mail to a lot of persons who do not know of each other and might not like the idea that someone else knows they get this e-mail, you use the ‘BCC’ field. That’s _basic_ knowledge/courtesy/n etiquette.

dandellion Kimban wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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Wait! let’s go through it again, cause I am not sure I understood well. They sent mails with 80 recipients in TO: field? Not BCC: but actual visible-to-all TO: field? And like that is not enough, they included RL names in that?
You know, some people should be disconnected from the Internet, sent back to school ad allowed back after they pass the tests of common sense. And even then, they should be allowed to use the computer only in the presence of somebody sane and intelligent.

Vint wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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Dandellion, 99% correct. They did not include the RL names, but if the emailaddress is eg. vint.falken@planet.nl, it’s not hard to guess the name, now is it? ;)

/me nods in agreement on this part: You know, some people should be disconnected from the Internet, sent back to school ad allowed back after they pass the tests of common sense. And even then, they should be allowed to use the computer only in the presence of somebody sane and intelligent. I want to add something though, the ONLY key they will be allowed to use is ‘Esc’! ;)

Flux Woyseck wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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My apologies for seeming so lax on the matter, I agree that its a serious issue they need to fix. Kinda makes a “privacy policy” worth less than a roll of toilet paper. As for your remark: “I want to add something though, the ONLY key they will be allowed to use is ‘Esc’! ;)” I think we should amend that to “Alt F4″.

Aleister Kronos wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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OOPS!

I’m glad this all passed me by now. Y’know? I don’t think I will bother.

Crap Mariner wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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I can’t just receive the issues electronically via RSS feed?

It’s 2008. Printing out copies and mailing them is both wasteful and inefficient.

Deal me out, SLangLife.

Shockwave Plasma wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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SLangLife = Amateurs

Mary wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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I also received that reminding mail, but it didnt have any other people’ e-mails attached…
didnt anyone think that it could be sent just accidentely? i really cant believe it was intentional.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on January 9, 2008
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Mary, yes, I even _hope_ this was an accident. Yet that does not excuse the capital stupidity they’ve pulled here, now does it? Nor does it change the thingie that should pass as a privacy policy and the lack of a real one.

Which reminds me. Actually, I accept e-mail addresses, should I have such a policy too? I should have a fine number in my Db - somewhere - by now…

Zigi Bury wrote a comment on January 10, 2008
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„Better” is the an enemy of „good” – it is says in my country. SL’ang Life will be printed this night. On Monday it will be dispatch to all of the subscribers which confirmed their registration.
Personally I receive a lot of mails, and not always I click some confirmations. That is why I had an idea to send reminders to all of the people who registered on our page and probably wait for the first number of SL’ang Life, but because of some reasons (maybe server did not work for a while, or the connection was bad…) did not confirmed themselves as a subscribers.
We do not have any tools that enable us to send e-mails to all from our base at the same time…they are useless for us.
I said: “Katty, write and send a reminder to each of over 100 subscribers”. As long as I sat nearby, the e-mails were sending one by one. But a human is creative. And he realized: I will copy all of them and send at once. And it went out…
I have been reading your posts and I wouldn’t like to be in Katty’s skin. You can call us amateurs. Do you want to know the real story of SL’ang Life? Just read my commentary in the first issue. Unusually, we will palce it on our page.
And one more thing to add… You are writing about your doubts that your personal data will be sold or that we will be sending spam to you. Do you know, apart from me of course, any spammer that sets the subscriber on his page, and just next to it adds his name, surname and address (there are my RL data find me at google.com)?
I do apologize. CEO Macciej has already started writing an official apology for our website.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on January 10, 2008
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Zigi, we do not have such a saying in Dutch. We do have the one ’speaking is silver, keeping silent is gold’. I don’t like it! ;)

Did we say you are amateurs? Hmmm. I’m sorry, but this was - regardless it’s good intentions - a major error. Yes, a good trick was found to lessen the burden of work, but two more second of thinking would have put that lot of e-mail addresses in the BCC field. Katty must have also gotten my rather furious e-mail, but never replied.

I must admit I am curious about SLang Life, and have thus subscribed to receiving a copy in my mailbox. Until I have that in my paws, I’ll base my judgement on the cover lay-out, contents and this privacy error.

I don’t know, I do not know any spammers personally. As I gave up creating a separate e-mail address for each and every service I use - the benefits of having your own domain - long time ago, I do not know where the spam I get comes from. I can only hope there will not be more now.

As for the privacy statement / agreement, I think from the moment you gather people’s RL addresses you should have one a bit more elaborate than ‘I hereby give consent for my personal data to be inserted into database and processed now and in the future by the owner of SL’ang Life Magazine. => ‘Yes’’, which says what you may do, but not what you WILL NOT do with the data. A nice draft can be found here. I do admit being guilty of not having one myself, although I do keep IP’s and e-mailaddresses linked to avie names in my Db’s. I do realise I should work on that, and shall do so.

You’re Avatars too, aren’t you? Why don’t tie Katty up to one of those SL BDSM poles and punish her? Ow, do add some prim donkey ears! I think that will make amends way better then any official apology could, and at least, it’s Second Life style. ;)

dandellion Kimban wrote a comment on January 10, 2008
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ok, I am also guilty of not having PP on my blog too. But, you’ll agree, it is somewhat different. And that is beside the point here.

Point is that computers are made to free humans from boring and repetitive work. Now, you can imagine Katty copy/pasting all those e-mail addresses. But human is creative. Human will not think about hiring a student or SL fellow to make five lines script to extract those addresses and send e-mails on a press of a button, just like computers do :) I bet that script wouldn’t cost more than 2000L$.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on January 10, 2008
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Human should have just thought of putting them in BCC. :d

Smiley Barry wrote a comment on January 10, 2008
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Lol, i’m a LITTLE late (mobile browser reached “Oops! Page not found” after about 10-15 mins of in-class click-typing), but here’s my comment:

F***! I’m unsubscribing and resubscribing with my “business” email alias. (Smiley@DuoGrid.com and Admin@DuoGrid.com) This is very wrong, I don’t have an average name so it’s kinda risky for me to find out some idiot mailing everybody put my email address, which contained my name, along with 80+ recipients in the “To:” field. Y’know, someone could sue them for doing this. >.>

Zigi Bury wrote a comment on January 10, 2008
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I taught computer science up to 10 years. Every year, every class, every stud I said: do it, don’t touch it, click that, don’t push “delete”, use this or that, here you are 3 field To-Cc-Bcc, in this page you can read more about netiquette … This discus looks like ghosts’ revenge; lol
And one more nugget: Humans are lazy :)

Vint Falken wrote a comment on January 11, 2008
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Update: SLangLife CEO Macciej Schumann responded with a forum post called ‘Privacy Policy‘. So in the end, something goods comes out of this: ‘In order to make the operation on your data trustworthy, we are currently working on a privacy policy.

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