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	<title>Comments on: SLart at the Cannery book : possible printing flaws!</title>
	<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Arminius Heron</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-95244</link>
		<dc:creator>Arminius Heron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-95244</guid>
		<description>Apologies, this is fairly late, almost a year later..., but now with the Avatrait book being published by LULU, I just got informed of your blog, Vint. I got cheated by Lulu, too. I had ordered two copies, and, I admit, I issued a wrong postcode. Anyway, I checked back with my local post office, and they said, even with my wrong code, it should have made it to me, nonetheless. 

I think, it's common in EVERY civilized country, that undeliverable post is being returned to the sender. When contacting support, they plainly told me: Nothing is returned to us! After half an hour, I had nailed him down to vaguely stating, that, if something was returned to them, one would settle for an agreement to deliver it again on additional shipping fees, which is fair enough. And that was the last time, I ever heared from them. No delivery, no notice, and 90 bucks down the drain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies, this is fairly late, almost a year later&#8230;, but now with the Avatrait book being published by LULU, I just got informed of your blog, Vint. I got cheated by Lulu, too. I had ordered two copies, and, I admit, I issued a wrong postcode. Anyway, I checked back with my local post office, and they said, even with my wrong code, it should have made it to me, nonetheless. </p>
<p>I think, it&#8217;s common in EVERY civilized country, that undeliverable post is being returned to the sender. When contacting support, they plainly told me: Nothing is returned to us! After half an hour, I had nailed him down to vaguely stating, that, if something was returned to them, one would settle for an agreement to deliver it again on additional shipping fees, which is fair enough. And that was the last time, I ever heared from them. No delivery, no notice, and 90 bucks down the drain.</p>
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		<title>By: Cannary keeping me busy. &#124; VintFalken.com</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-18071</link>
		<dc:creator>Cannary keeping me busy. &#124; VintFalken.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-18071</guid>
		<description>[...] book from the previous show is back up on LuLu - without us changing files, so they did admit their mistake in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] book from the previous show is back up on LuLu - without us changing files, so they did admit their mistake in [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17842</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17842</guid>
		<description>Yet another update:

After yet another hour on live chat, I finally got what I was promised to start with: a reissue, expedite send (see, they can do reissues, so what they said yesterday was a lie) and a refund. (Shown on my paypal but not yet on my credit card. I hope that will work out ok and the money will not disappear somewhere inbetween paypal and my bank account.)

&lt;strong&gt;Yet, the files are still offline.  They still blame the layout of the book, and when I asked if that caused the drum mark spots too, said they do not wish to discuss with me anymore.&lt;/strong&gt; Anyway, so if we still want the book, Sho - although she used LuLu's template - will have to rework the files, they leave her no choice.

In the mean time, Mylena told me that a while ago she received a book with a wrongfully cut cover and a few days after that, without asking, a book with a correctly cut cover.  I guess the files were to blame there too?

Should I inform anybody when the book is back up and really, nobody knows of some competition for LuLu with under-one-week-handling-of-complaints?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another update:</p>
<p>After yet another hour on live chat, I finally got what I was promised to start with: a reissue, expedite send (see, they can do reissues, so what they said yesterday was a lie) and a refund. (Shown on my paypal but not yet on my credit card. I hope that will work out ok and the money will not disappear somewhere inbetween paypal and my bank account.)</p>
<p><strong>Yet, the files are still offline.  They still blame the layout of the book, and when I asked if that caused the drum mark spots too, said they do not wish to discuss with me anymore.</strong> Anyway, so if we still want the book, Sho - although she used LuLu&#8217;s template - will have to rework the files, they leave her no choice.</p>
<p>In the mean time, Mylena told me that a while ago she received a book with a wrongfully cut cover and a few days after that, without asking, a book with a correctly cut cover.  I guess the files were to blame there too?</p>
<p>Should I inform anybody when the book is back up and really, nobody knows of some competition for LuLu with under-one-week-handling-of-complaints?</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17831</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17831</guid>
		<description>-68844 points for LULU now

They say it is the layout of the book to blame, yet of all the people who have ordered, I am the only one with a 'wrong' copy. (Just heard of someone else who received the book recently and it was a good copy.)
They took down the book.
They deny having ever said that I would get a new copy and a refund. That's not our policy. I quote: &lt;em&gt;Mark B: I do apologize with how it came out but they will  look at the images and inform the printing department to issue out another copy and also a refund&lt;/em&gt;
I told them to read their own chat logs. They say they can not give me a copy of the book anymore as the files are taken down: something they did.
They told me yesterday that they would hear with the boss and get back to me. Up to now, no reply from either that person or the orders department over at LuLu.

Shortly put: does anybody know of a service similar to LuLu's on demand printing? It should mainly be able to deliver a photobook with some text. Ow, and have decent customer support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-68844 points for LULU now</p>
<p>They say it is the layout of the book to blame, yet of all the people who have ordered, I am the only one with a &#8216;wrong&#8217; copy. (Just heard of someone else who received the book recently and it was a good copy.)<br />
They took down the book.<br />
They deny having ever said that I would get a new copy and a refund. That&#8217;s not our policy. I quote: <em>Mark B: I do apologize with how it came out but they will  look at the images and inform the printing department to issue out another copy and also a refund</em><br />
I told them to read their own chat logs. They say they can not give me a copy of the book anymore as the files are taken down: something they did.<br />
They told me yesterday that they would hear with the boss and get back to me. Up to now, no reply from either that person or the orders department over at LuLu.</p>
<p>Shortly put: does anybody know of a service similar to LuLu&#8217;s on demand printing? It should mainly be able to deliver a photobook with some text. Ow, and have decent customer support.</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17512</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17512</guid>
		<description>The two business days have passed. Haven't heard from orders@ yet. Live help says they can not help me. Funny thing is that they did say they marked it as urgent. So I wonder, do the non-urgent things get handled first, or do those take 10 business days to respond to?

Minus another 10 points for LuLu ondemand printing, which brings them to minus 30. (Forgot to count the minus then for screwing up my order earlier.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two business days have passed. Haven&#8217;t heard from orders@ yet. Live help says they can not help me. Funny thing is that they did say they marked it as urgent. So I wonder, do the non-urgent things get handled first, or do those take 10 business days to respond to?</p>
<p>Minus another 10 points for LuLu ondemand printing, which brings them to minus 30. (Forgot to count the minus then for screwing up my order earlier.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bhelle Alacrity</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17155</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhelle Alacrity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17155</guid>
		<description>Of course that's why they have galley proofs etc. Personally, being a zero attention to detail person I was never very good at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course that&#8217;s why they have galley proofs etc. Personally, being a zero attention to detail person I was never very good at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia Mantis</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17076</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudia Mantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17076</guid>
		<description>Heya Vint,

Can say thats not nice finishing on the book. I work at a print company that makes photoalbums too.(we almost did the european part for Lulu)

And the spots r from the drum of the printer i think. I see them on other pics on ur flickr too. Same shape. 

Hope u get a new one that actually been through a quality control. Thats crap they delivered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya Vint,</p>
<p>Can say thats not nice finishing on the book. I work at a print company that makes photoalbums too.(we almost did the european part for Lulu)</p>
<p>And the spots r from the drum of the printer i think. I see them on other pics on ur flickr too. Same shape. </p>
<p>Hope u get a new one that actually been through a quality control. Thats crap they delivered.</p>
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		<title>By: Mylena Aquitaine</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17031</link>
		<dc:creator>Mylena Aquitaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17031</guid>
		<description>Hey Vint,

Sorry to hear your copy is a bit mangled, can't wait to see if ours is ok.  Since it's print on demand, printing flaws will show up on individual copies, not on groups of them.  I've had similar problems with Lulu before, 2 copies of the same book ordered at the same time, one was perfect, one had a cutting flaw (it was cut nearly 1cm too narow, cropping some text!)

The way I figure it, as long as they replace it without making a fuss, then it's allright... annoying, but allright.  I DO think they should up the quality control though, but gut feeling tells me no one actually looks the books over before they're packed and shipped. (and yes, packing is excellent, haven't seen anything damaged in transit from them yet.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Vint,</p>
<p>Sorry to hear your copy is a bit mangled, can&#8217;t wait to see if ours is ok.  Since it&#8217;s print on demand, printing flaws will show up on individual copies, not on groups of them.  I&#8217;ve had similar problems with Lulu before, 2 copies of the same book ordered at the same time, one was perfect, one had a cutting flaw (it was cut nearly 1cm too narow, cropping some text!)</p>
<p>The way I figure it, as long as they replace it without making a fuss, then it&#8217;s allright&#8230; annoying, but allright.  I DO think they should up the quality control though, but gut feeling tells me no one actually looks the books over before they&#8217;re packed and shipped. (and yes, packing is excellent, haven&#8217;t seen anything damaged in transit from them yet.)</p>
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		<title>By: Smiley Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17010</link>
		<dc:creator>Smiley Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17010</guid>
		<description>(Meant as in a little part of you in it, but that's good too! ;-) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Meant as in a little part of you in it, but that&#8217;s good too! ;-) )</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17009</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/slart-at-the-cannery-book-possible-printing-flaws/#comment-17009</guid>
		<description>Ow!!! Me when I was still young? *grins*

Good luck on the test! *heads out for Work II*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ow!!! Me when I was still young? *grins*</p>
<p>Good luck on the test! *heads out for Work II*</p>
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