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		<title>By: GridBlog &#187; SLTopsites.com &#8212; sleazy</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-5453</link>
		<dc:creator>GridBlog &#187; SLTopsites.com &#8212; sleazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] through the worldofsl.com blogroll this morning, I come across Vint Falkien&#8217;s post about this website called SLTopsites.com. For the unfamiliar it looks like an easy way to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] through the worldofsl.com blogroll this morning, I come across Vint Falkien&#8217;s post about this website called SLTopsites.com. For the unfamiliar it looks like an easy way to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3939</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3939</guid>
		<description>@Veronique: Well, I hope that people reading this will some how realise Mr. Palace is definitely not the 'nice guy' he pretends to be. I 'd be supprised if he does anything in SL that isn't related to 'gaining money and preferably as much as possible'. 

@Looker: I don't think Bella wants Richard. *grins*  And same for all of us I think, without work no money and thus no food and no pc. :d  And sorry, but 'I HAVE TO' use tools like SLtopsites, is just bullocks. Why do you HAVE TO, again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Veronique: Well, I hope that people reading this will some how realise Mr. Palace is definitely not the &#8216;nice guy&#8217; he pretends to be. I &#8216;d be supprised if he does anything in SL that isn&#8217;t related to &#8216;gaining money and preferably as much as possible&#8217;. </p>
<p>@Looker: I don&#8217;t think Bella wants Richard. *grins*  And same for all of us I think, without work no money and thus no food and no pc. :d  And sorry, but &#8216;I HAVE TO&#8217; use tools like SLtopsites, is just bullocks. Why do you HAVE TO, again?</p>
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		<title>By: Looker Lumet</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3920</link>
		<dc:creator>Looker Lumet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3920</guid>
		<description>@ Richard: waw, I did not know you were married to Bella. As she is the only one who did notify me. And that is how I found out about winning a price. 
And as told before, there are others who did not receive the email. As Vint suggested: why not inform everyone inworld, at least the winner. So if Bella did not told me, I would never have known it.
@ Vint: as usual, you are completely right by saying that commenting on other blogs is way more effective, but sorry, I don't have all day to run over all the blogs, and to comment them, I do have a job in RL which pays my bills. So if I stopped working in RL, I won't be able to be in SL anymore, even not blog anymore.I can not go through hundreds of blogs, and then comment them too.  I have to use other tools as SLtopsites, which is one of them, although I am getting more and more suspicious after reading his comments here. Please forgive me.:)
I have already deleted other ones on my blog for the same reason you mentioned, but honestly thought that SLtopsites was not one of them. Until now I still have a little faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Richard: waw, I did not know you were married to Bella. As she is the only one who did notify me. And that is how I found out about winning a price.<br />
And as told before, there are others who did not receive the email. As Vint suggested: why not inform everyone inworld, at least the winner. So if Bella did not told me, I would never have known it.<br />
@ Vint: as usual, you are completely right by saying that commenting on other blogs is way more effective, but sorry, I don&#8217;t have all day to run over all the blogs, and to comment them, I do have a job in RL which pays my bills. So if I stopped working in RL, I won&#8217;t be able to be in SL anymore, even not blog anymore.I can not go through hundreds of blogs, and then comment them too.  I have to use other tools as SLtopsites, which is one of them, although I am getting more and more suspicious after reading his comments here. Please forgive me.:)<br />
I have already deleted other ones on my blog for the same reason you mentioned, but honestly thought that SLtopsites was not one of them. Until now I still have a little faith.</p>
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		<title>By: veronique kaminski</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3914</link>
		<dc:creator>veronique kaminski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3914</guid>
		<description>... god, this guy is a pitbull... finally found a worthy opponent Vint?  Cats (/Nekos) and Dogs.... lol

I didnt mean to say that you were (deliberately) involved Vint, just that he seems to use your blog for his advertising campaign..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; god, this guy is a pitbull&#8230; finally found a worthy opponent Vint?  Cats (/Nekos) and Dogs&#8230;. lol</p>
<p>I didnt mean to say that you were (deliberately) involved Vint, just that he seems to use your blog for his advertising campaign..</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3893</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3893</guid>
		<description>You will see so, but you can see that in your address bar too. Just say 'Yes, Vint, Google ANALYTICS is an analytics tool.' Which does not mean it can not help with SEO. :p

If you send out many mails about L$ prices that can be won, etc, yes, we say it's spam.  But if you send out a mail saying 'hey, the site that you are listed on is going to start to run ads, if you do not want to be listed anymore you can unsubscribe 'here'', I'm sure all would appreciate.

Thank you for clarifying on the data gathered from the sites. I know that Alexa has that. And even country locations, and such. Please, don't threat Dolmere, me and the others as idiots. Btw. If you would not know: Alexa has only data about the behaviour of people that have the Alexa toolbar/plugin installed.

A dedicated server? I hope you didn't got that especially for sltopsites.com?! I just assume you had that anyway for your other blog and businesses, so it should not even be an extra cost without registering the domain. As Dolmere said, take an example from planet.worldofsl.com.

Now, you do not have to mention everything before you start, but you shouldn't 'willingly ly' either. You knew you were going to place ads, and you also knew more peole would sign up if you would not mention that.

And no, I did not receive the email either. Someone else told me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will see so, but you can see that in your address bar too. Just say &#8216;Yes, Vint, Google ANALYTICS is an analytics tool.&#8217; Which does not mean it can not help with SEO. :p</p>
<p>If you send out many mails about L$ prices that can be won, etc, yes, we say it&#8217;s spam.  But if you send out a mail saying &#8216;hey, the site that you are listed on is going to start to run ads, if you do not want to be listed anymore you can unsubscribe &#8216;here&#8221;, I&#8217;m sure all would appreciate.</p>
<p>Thank you for clarifying on the data gathered from the sites. I know that Alexa has that. And even country locations, and such. Please, don&#8217;t threat Dolmere, me and the others as idiots. Btw. If you would not know: Alexa has only data about the behaviour of people that have the Alexa toolbar/plugin installed.</p>
<p>A dedicated server? I hope you didn&#8217;t got that especially for sltopsites.com?! I just assume you had that anyway for your other blog and businesses, so it should not even be an extra cost without registering the domain. As Dolmere said, take an example from planet.worldofsl.com.</p>
<p>Now, you do not have to mention everything before you start, but you shouldn&#8217;t &#8216;willingly ly&#8217; either. You knew you were going to place ads, and you also knew more peole would sign up if you would not mention that.</p>
<p>And no, I did not receive the email either. Someone else told me.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Palace</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3878</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Palace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3878</guid>
		<description>"I don’t see how you use Google Analytics for SEO. It’s just a - good - traffic and site analytics tool. You can do SEO based on the information it gives you, but it doesn’t do ‘SEO’ for you."

When you change something to the website, you will see a differences in Google Analytics. Example are the meta tag, the SEO friendly links like .html instead of .php?xx=

"Changing… blablabla… notify… prominent place on our site: let’s assume not everybody will continue checking your site, thus why not by e-mail AND in a prominent place on the site? In stead of ‘or’."

If i send out many email, people said i spam. If they never receive, people said i never send. Anyway, I blog about the developement of Second Life Topsites.

"I use Analytics too. I was just wondering about the data from the other sites you get. And - I asked this before - how do you measure ‘pageviews’"

The data shown to me is just unique view and total pageview which is under the site stat. There are no other data beside that. 

FYI, Alexa also have your pageview data, reach data. 

I have to find Sponsor to help pay the hosting.” Hosting + traffic for SLTopsites? Can’t be that expensive. You registered the domain with the idea to make money from it.

Registration is cheap, but Hosting can be expensive. I am on a dedicated server.

So you knew from the start you were going to place ads, and should have at least mentioned that.

Do I have to mention everything before I start anything?

Did not notify the winner is true, as he did not receive an e-mail. I suggest in the future you contact the winner yourself (in-world) just to be sure.

I did send out the same email to all the members using the site script email function. I have no idea why Looker Lumet never received it. You received it didn't you?. Anyway, I mentioned it in my blog and SL forum. My wife informed him as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t see how you use Google Analytics for SEO. It’s just a - good - traffic and site analytics tool. You can do SEO based on the information it gives you, but it doesn’t do ‘SEO’ for you.&#8221;</p>
<p>When you change something to the website, you will see a differences in Google Analytics. Example are the meta tag, the SEO friendly links like .html instead of .php?xx=</p>
<p>&#8220;Changing… blablabla… notify… prominent place on our site: let’s assume not everybody will continue checking your site, thus why not by e-mail AND in a prominent place on the site? In stead of ‘or’.&#8221;</p>
<p>If i send out many email, people said i spam. If they never receive, people said i never send. Anyway, I blog about the developement of Second Life Topsites.</p>
<p>&#8220;I use Analytics too. I was just wondering about the data from the other sites you get. And - I asked this before - how do you measure ‘pageviews’&#8221;</p>
<p>The data shown to me is just unique view and total pageview which is under the site stat. There are no other data beside that. </p>
<p>FYI, Alexa also have your pageview data, reach data. </p>
<p>I have to find Sponsor to help pay the hosting.” Hosting + traffic for SLTopsites? Can’t be that expensive. You registered the domain with the idea to make money from it.</p>
<p>Registration is cheap, but Hosting can be expensive. I am on a dedicated server.</p>
<p>So you knew from the start you were going to place ads, and should have at least mentioned that.</p>
<p>Do I have to mention everything before I start anything?</p>
<p>Did not notify the winner is true, as he did not receive an e-mail. I suggest in the future you contact the winner yourself (in-world) just to be sure.</p>
<p>I did send out the same email to all the members using the site script email function. I have no idea why Looker Lumet never received it. You received it didn&#8217;t you?. Anyway, I mentioned it in my blog and SL forum. My wife informed him as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Vint Falken</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3847</link>
		<dc:creator>Vint Falken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3847</guid>
		<description>@&lt;b&gt;Veronique&lt;/b&gt;, he got the attention anyway, posting useless comments on all the blog and sending in-world messages. Most people replying here at either already received such an 'invitation' or came across of it somewhere.

&lt;b&gt;@Richard Palace: &lt;/b&gt;

On the disclaimer:

I don't see how you use Google Analytics for SEO. It's just a - good - traffic and site analytics tool.  You can do SEO based on the information it gives you, but it doesn't do 'SEO' for you. 

Changing... blablabla... notify... prominent place on our site: let's assume not everybody will continue checking your site, thus why not by e-mail AND in a prominent place on the site? In stead of 'or'. 

How do people who want their personal information removed / account terminated contact you?

What does the code you let them install on their sites do? (And how do you measure pageviews?)

On the ads:

1. You should have told the people from the start that you were going to place ads on the site.  By subscribing to be listed they sort of 'associate' themselves with your site, so it would have been only decent to make that clear from the start.
2. Imho there are two types of 'ad people': those who have content and put some ads with it to pay for hosting expenses etc. and those who have ads and then need to think of some content to generate traffic to go with the ads. I place you in the second category of 'ad people'. 

I have no problem with you analysing data of people coming to your site. (*Hi* *I think I'm the one with the 'zaventem' IP* *waves*) I use Analytics too. I was just wondering about the data from the other sites you get. And - I asked this before - how do you measure 'pageviews'? 

&lt;em&gt;If topsites doesn’t generate traffic, how is visitor going to visit your site through topsites? Nothing is free. Domain registration and hosting aren’t free.&lt;/em&gt; I have to find Sponsor to help pay the hosting." Hosting + traffic for SLTopsites? Can't be that expensive. You registered the domain with the idea to make money from it. So you knew from the start you were going to place ads, and should have at least mentioned that.  I'm also 100% sure that you already knew you were going to change ranking by 'page views' to 'incoming clicks', as that's how all these type of sites work. 

Did not notify the winner is true, as he did not receive an e-mail. I suggest in the future you contact the winner yourself (in-world) just to be sure.

&lt;b&gt;@Looker&lt;/b&gt;

What's wrong with commenting on other blogs and being part of the community to get your blog known? A much more productive way imho. 

The photoblog-community.com works with adsense and top lists too, but I don't have the 'awefully cheap' feeling with that one. Maybe because it's depending on votes and not on incoming clicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<b>Veronique</b>, he got the attention anyway, posting useless comments on all the blog and sending in-world messages. Most people replying here at either already received such an &#8216;invitation&#8217; or came across of it somewhere.</p>
<p><b>@Richard Palace: </b></p>
<p>On the disclaimer:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how you use Google Analytics for SEO. It&#8217;s just a - good - traffic and site analytics tool.  You can do SEO based on the information it gives you, but it doesn&#8217;t do &#8216;SEO&#8217; for you. </p>
<p>Changing&#8230; blablabla&#8230; notify&#8230; prominent place on our site: let&#8217;s assume not everybody will continue checking your site, thus why not by e-mail AND in a prominent place on the site? In stead of &#8216;or&#8217;. </p>
<p>How do people who want their personal information removed / account terminated contact you?</p>
<p>What does the code you let them install on their sites do? (And how do you measure pageviews?)</p>
<p>On the ads:</p>
<p>1. You should have told the people from the start that you were going to place ads on the site.  By subscribing to be listed they sort of &#8216;associate&#8217; themselves with your site, so it would have been only decent to make that clear from the start.<br />
2. Imho there are two types of &#8216;ad people&#8217;: those who have content and put some ads with it to pay for hosting expenses etc. and those who have ads and then need to think of some content to generate traffic to go with the ads. I place you in the second category of &#8216;ad people&#8217;. </p>
<p>I have no problem with you analysing data of people coming to your site. (*Hi* *I think I&#8217;m the one with the &#8216;zaventem&#8217; IP* *waves*) I use Analytics too. I was just wondering about the data from the other sites you get. And - I asked this before - how do you measure &#8216;pageviews&#8217;? </p>
<p><em>If topsites doesn’t generate traffic, how is visitor going to visit your site through topsites? Nothing is free. Domain registration and hosting aren’t free.</em> I have to find Sponsor to help pay the hosting.&#8221; Hosting + traffic for SLTopsites? Can&#8217;t be that expensive. You registered the domain with the idea to make money from it. So you knew from the start you were going to place ads, and should have at least mentioned that.  I&#8217;m also 100% sure that you already knew you were going to change ranking by &#8216;page views&#8217; to &#8216;incoming clicks&#8217;, as that&#8217;s how all these type of sites work. </p>
<p>Did not notify the winner is true, as he did not receive an e-mail. I suggest in the future you contact the winner yourself (in-world) just to be sure.</p>
<p><b>@Looker</b></p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with commenting on other blogs and being part of the community to get your blog known? A much more productive way imho. </p>
<p>The photoblog-community.com works with adsense and top lists too, but I don&#8217;t have the &#8216;awefully cheap&#8217; feeling with that one. Maybe because it&#8217;s depending on votes and not on incoming clicks.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Palace</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3824</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Palace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3824</guid>
		<description>veronique kamiski,

I see this as a comment, feedback and suggest to improve and fine tune Second Life Topsites. 

It's seems that every step I move, there is a motive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>veronique kamiski,</p>
<p>I see this as a comment, feedback and suggest to improve and fine tune Second Life Topsites. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s seems that every step I move, there is a motive.</p>
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		<title>By: veronique kaminski</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3822</link>
		<dc:creator>veronique kaminski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3822</guid>
		<description>.... and so, he received a lot of attention...

most of Vints readers, not an negligible amount I suppose, by now know the name of his site...

nice marketing move..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;. and so, he received a lot of attention&#8230;</p>
<p>most of Vints readers, not an negligible amount I suppose, by now know the name of his site&#8230;</p>
<p>nice marketing move..</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Palace</title>
		<link>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3820</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Palace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintfalken.com/sltopsitescom-thx-but-not-thx/#comment-3820</guid>
		<description>Vint Falken,

I am Richard Palace. Not Richard Palaca.

Thanks for the approval.

I am still learning. Give me some time to improve on the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vint Falken,</p>
<p>I am Richard Palace. Not Richard Palaca.</p>
<p>Thanks for the approval.</p>
<p>I am still learning. Give me some time to improve on the site.</p>
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