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Luger Pistol: all kneel!When I first met up with Zoe to go shopping for guns, she asked me what I wanted. ‘A classy Luger!’, I said. Of course, we didn’t find any and I ended up spending L$1500 on the Socom. But now she did find me one and it even shoots blueberry muffins! Now I’m not the kneeling type of meta-person, but Hienrich Krieghoff’s Luger pistol is _so_ impressive! It doesn’t come out that well in this picture, so if you want to take a good look at it, just drop by in-world and ask nicely and I’ll show it. If you don’t ask nicely, I’ll just use it to shoot you. ;)

Vint, Neko of the ReichAnd next to the Luger, there was the Lady of the Reich outfit. OMG! ‘Zoe, tell me to buy this!!’ where upon she replied: ‘Well, I did.’ Surely I did too. *grins* Our first life TOS is a bit tight where it comes to WWII uniforms, medals, … and other militaria and my first life budget is a tad to limited for buying a lot of them anyway, so I just couldn’t pass on on this SL opportunity. ^^

Now, first and foremore, this quote from Spotz Spork (SS’ items on SL Exchange), one of the founders of Das Waffenamt: ‘World War II is a major part of history that should not be ignored nor forgotten. I’ve worn various uniforms for nearly a year on SL and have not once gotten into any trouble for it, because I do not cause problems in them. A healthy dose of respect for the history behind them is a good thing to have.’

Vint, Neko of the Reich with Luger pistolWhen Zoe and I TP’ed to this shop, I found out that the ‘BJ’s Flack Jacket’ I often wear is from Das Waffenamt too. Up until now, I’ve seen nothing but great clothing from them and I’m very very very impressed. It’s a shop I’ll often return to. If you’re interested in the Lady of the Reich costume: it’s L$500 but very much worth that, as it’s extremely well done and comes with boots, skin, shape, hair, gloves, panzer crusher/beret, an iron cross second class, eyes, jacket (a pity that wears as a tshirt, I would have loved it to be a jacket, so I could still wear my breast tattoo), pants and a small AO.


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57 Responses to “Vint, Neko of the Reich”

Arahan Claveau wrote a comment on April 17, 2007
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You look bloody marvelous!

Vint Falken wrote a comment on April 18, 2007
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Ow, ty!

*moves her ears from content*

Nooo! That happens everything when I move those darned ears! My beret just fell off! :(

*picks up the berret and goes hiding somewhere to put it back up whilst thinking Neko’s of the Reich might be a bit to vain to win world wars*

Melissa Yeuxdoux wrote a comment on April 18, 2007
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Yes, WWII should not be forgotten… but I still cringe when I see Zyklon-B canisters on sale in Mr. Spork’s kiosk in Northstar Mall.

Zoe Connolly wrote a comment on April 18, 2007
Tiessa Montgolfier wrote a comment on April 18, 2007
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You have to make certain you accessorize appropriately, so you have to make certain your outfit matches your gun, don’t you? :)

Vint Falken wrote a comment on April 18, 2007
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Melissa, Zyklon-B would serve a good purpose for getting rid of all the rats running around in PL lately. *Looks rather pissed at Andro* But I do get your point. For further reasoning, I completely agree with Tiessa’s comment here.

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on July 25, 2008
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I speak on behalf of Second Lifers Against Hate, the Zionist Association of Second Life, and the SL JDL:

Spotz Spork is lying to you when he says he has “not once gotten into any trouble for it, because I do not cause problems in them”. You can read about some of the trouble Spotz has created here: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Furzi

And BTW, that incident occurred on March 22, therefore he was actualy right in the middle of a heated conflict at the time he told you that.

His “Furzi” group (Furry + Nazi = Furzi) has been banned by Linden Lab and he has had his account suspended multiple times. In retaliation he has banned the Jews of Second Life from his store because, as you may guess they don’t appreciate some of the items - especially the anti-Semitic posters.

I know he claims not to be anti-Semitic but that means he isn’t because he says so? I guarantee he is. And while it may or may not be provable what is in his heart but it is a provable fact that as I said he did lie to you, and you can verify it on my blog (brandoncatteneo.wordpress.com).

Trust me, this is not a person you want to be associated with.

Also, Nazi Chic in general is not cool. Why? It invokes feelings of fear and anger in many people. You wouldn’t walk around in a KKK uniform would you? Well to victims of anti-Semitism and racial discrimination that is exactly the impression you are giving. And let me say that this would not be such a sensitive issue if it were not for real-world violence by neo-Nazis who delight in seeing a swastika in any context. People are attacked and hurt by these people - and I’m not talking about ancient history, it’s happening right now. When the swastika symbol is worn it is hurtful to people, so it is up to you if you want to say “screw em” or “maybe I don’t see their point or even agree with them, but it isn’t cool to hurt people’s feelings”. Anyway, Germany has a over 1,000 years of history, is it so important to art and fashion to focus on the most negative 12 years?

You don’t seem like the type of person who wants to offend or intimidate people, so on behalf of the members of my groups and I - I respectfully ask that you refrain from wearing swastikas in SL.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on July 25, 2008
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Ok, I replied on Flickr too, but here we go:

a) Stop pretending it did not happen, by hiding all symbols away. Let people learn from the past, by understanding it, exploring it, thinking about it, talking about it. Killing all conversation by saying ‘this is evil’ is not the way to go.
b) I attended a few ‘Furzi’ friday nights, and at no time I noticed anything close to antisemitic in main chat (I can’t vouch for other people’s IM’s). Just some WW facts & jokes. Nothing offending towards the Jewish people.
c) I’m not so sure the Zionist movement has such a clean past and present. As far as I know, they did not stear 100% away from hate either.
d) As for the focus on the 12y of the German history, those are not just German history, that is world history. Makes us seriously think about mankind and it’s not so civilised nature.
e) I have a pretty collection of anti-semitist posters at home in a book. But also a few books on sovjet posers, after-sovjet posters, dutch posters from during WWII, allies posters, … . They are part of the history too. I must admit I would not hang them up in my skybox (or RL home), nor sell them, but I see nothing wrong with owning them.

And as I said, in stead of continuing to hide the past, what do you think, maybe put some more effort in making today a better place for all humans? *needs to shut up, before she’s going to quote Boyd Rice*

Samantha Poindexter wrote a comment on July 28, 2008
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Speaking as a Jew in good standing, I utterly disagree with and repudiate the views of Mr. Brandon Catteneo, and indeed find them far more disturbing — and evocative of fear and anger — than any swastikas or Nazi uniforms in SL.

Nasr Hanif wrote a comment on July 28, 2008
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Personally I think it’s in indifferent taste at best but what do you do? Send round the uglies to smash their windows? Maybe not. Certainly not for a point of view that’s extremely peripheral at best
Incidentally, as an Ishmailite in indifferent standing I’m highly gratified that the Zionist Association of Second Life is against Hate. Keep up the good work!

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 4, 2008
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@Vint:

Adorning yourself in Nazi symbols as a fashion statement is not “understanding it, exploring it, thinking about it, talking about it” - it is beautifying it.

Pretending the Holocaust did not happen is the exact opposite of what I am saying. Let me try ot be more direct: I am upset with people being attracted to Nazi chic because it trivializes the horrors visited upon Millions of human beings. Swastikas, totenkopfs, red and black arm bands: these are the icons of a group of monsters who poisoned babies in their mothers’ arms, forced non-violent, law abiding citizens into cattle cars - violating every possible interpretation of freedom or rights.

In Nazi Germany if you were to have posted something that offended them in the way it offends me you would have been executed. But that’s not real to you is it?

That is called a lack of perspective, because if you COULD place yourself in the shoes of those who were hunted down, rounded up like livestock, forced at gunpoint to strip naked in front of a room full of strangers, and forced to work with virtually no food in the freezing cold until you collapsed you would not be saying Nazi clothing is pretty. I don’t wish that your family be hauled off to a death camp, but I wouldn’t mind if you someday wake from a nightmare in a cold sweat having dreamed you were a Jew in Nazi Germany.

These people are about to die. These are the people that killed them. Are you not displaying a similar attitude?

This is really a matter of throwing dirt in the faces of Jews who have been affected by the stories of survivors, the piles of shoes in the Holocaust museum, Anne Frank’s diary. I mean… Anne was a little girl - did she deserve to be killed like an animal? How do you think would she feel if she saw you wearing that? Since she is not around to tell you, I’ll say it for her: it would make her frightened and, more to the point, feel like you thought her nightmarish experience was nothing to you.

I hope my words have offered some food for thought, rather than offended you.

I have spoken on the matter of the Furzis. Sticking up for them is an error in judgement.

@Samantha

IF you are Jew, you are certainly NOT a survivor. I challenge you: Go visit the Yad Vashem, then send me an e-mail telling me what you have seen inside, and that Nazi symbols still don’t offend you.

@Nasr

The ZASL is committed to fighting hatred against Arabs and Muslims; this is a matter of conscious, but it is also a matter of not wanting Israel to be a country where there is prejudice and hatred. There is no question in my mind that Jews and Arabs can and should, and hopefully will someday, live peacefully with each other - especially since we are cousins and have more in common with each other than we do with any other peoples. It is unfortunate that it serves the interests of so many outsiders that we continue to be at each other’s throats.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 5, 2008
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Brandon, I have news for you: we live in era of civilisation which beautifies everything ‘evil’. Rape becomes sensual, the most cruel murders become good horror movie footage (or B horror movie footage, but regardless), blasting someone’s head off makes a good rap song, … Where’s the time that someone’s head put on the pavement and murder still shocked us? (American X) So in stead of questioning my fashion sense - and worse, knowledge and understanding of history* - I suggest you do some more constructive things to change civilisation that just bothering a poor, pittyfull, innocent neko.

Hmmm… I’m going into victim role here? Ah well, that’s fashionable anyway. We used to admire people who would conquer & fight (middle ages), but lately, it’s all to fashionable to be a victim. Maybe Mr Todorov said it better.

In Nazi Germany if you were to have posted something that offended them in the way it offends me you would have been executed. But that’s not real to you is it?

So you’d love to return to those times and see me exectued then, right? I realise I live in a luxury country, having (moderated) freedom of speech and that all, but that’s not my fault? =) If I would deny existence of the holocaust - which I definitely won’t, don’t take me wrong - they would throw me in jail or at least fine me. I hope that makes you feel a bit less frustrated?

I assume you’re not a ’surviver’ yourself either? And that you underestimate the empathy capabilities of non-jews by deciding that Anne Frank’s and the other stories & image footage and locations should ‘affect’ us, poor un-savvy jews, less?

Food for thought? Barely. Offended? No, but you’re getting a bit repetitive, and made some bold, almost insulting statements. Am I going to clean out my inventory especially for you? Definitely not.

Honestly? Could you go and do something more usefull with your time? Bring piece between Israel & Palestine? End world wide famine? Child labour? Aids spread in Africa? Prevent civilian casualties from happening in Afghanistan and Iraq? Or … errr.. mend the Belgian governement, if you want something that’s in a bit safer area?

When out of men’s hearts… all hate has will be gone…

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 5, 2008
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And because I’m tired of discussing at two places, from the Flickr photograph:

Brandon, I feel highly offended that still, in this ‘modern age’ 50 years after WWII, people are left to die each day. Hunger, deceases, race hate, … . Srebenica? Darfur? And who cares? Right… so, if there is one reason they are offended by nazi clothing, it’s because it’s a scary mirror. Mankind has not changed at all, we’re still doing shit if somebody (or a whole people) is in trouble.

brandon.catteneo says:

Vint, I completely agree, which is why I don’t think there is anything beautiful about Nazi clothing.

As you may know Serbia was first to experiment with Zyklon-B on humans, and the first country to declare itself “Judenfrie” in WWII. Because they did not learn from the past history repeated itself. Who would dress up like a Serbian soldier or a Janjaweed and say it is fashionable?

I think it is ugly to say this is pretty.

Does the fact that a reflection is scary, should stop us from looking in the mirror?

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 5, 2008
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First: You have no right to put words in my mouth. I said specificaly “I don’t wish that your family be hauled off to a death camp”, so don’t accuse me of saying you should be executed.

As to your points about “looking in the mirror” and ‘beautifying evil’, I mean… so you want to be seen in that way? I’m confused.

I also do not buy the “defending freedom of speech” argument. There are better places - more honorable places to make a stand for freedom.

If you haven’t read Anne Frank’s Diaries I really recommend it, if not for knowledge of history then simply because it is a great work of non-fiction. There have been a couple movies as well, but the book is always better. In any case, I did not hear you say how you thought she would feel seeing a “poor, pittyfull, innocent neko” dressing in a Nazi uniform. If you are dressing as a Nazi, you are not innocent.

As to the point about solving the World’s problems, if I can’t even convince you, who I don’t take to be an evil person, not to wear evil clothing, obviously I have no chance of stopping the violence and hatred of the World. Although, that wouldn’t stop me from trying.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 6, 2008
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Let me rephrase my previous answer: our whole society/civilisation is seriously f*cked up, and you still blame the nazi’s?!

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 6, 2008
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a) I read Anne Frank’s Diary (in Dutch, but I assume the translation was accurate.)
b) I’ve been to the museum (A’dam, Anne Frank House)
c) I have not seen the movie, no. Guilty of that.
d) My book shelve on WWII is likely to be more possibly then yours, my knowledge on it - all aspects off it, btw! - probably also, so stop pretending I’m a retard!
c) Actually, I don’t think I’d absolutely mind, if people want to see me as a horrid reflection of what they might be. If it makes them happy. Problem is, people refuse to look into any - methaphorical - mirror nowadays.
d) I don’t say nazis were good people. I just note that you might have more importance issues to address than my fashion sense. How Anne Frank would feel is besides the questions, is this is a new, post-WWII area. Hardly any chance that she’d think me to be cute, but lot’s of chance that she’ll say ’stop the horror happening to all those other kids on the grid earth in stead of wasting time judging Vint’s inventory.
e) Indeed, you can’t. And indeed, that fact obviously does not stop you from trying. If you want to stop violence and hatred, start stopping people who actually commit violence. Who actually do hate.

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 6, 2008
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I don’t say nazis were good people. I just note that you might have more importance issues to address than my fashion sense.

That is exactly the reason I am taking issue with you dressing like a Nazi. This was a terrible, terrible group of people. They should not be emulated and certainly shouldn’t be thought of as fashionable.

I don’t see people walking around as American GIs, or French resistence fighters. No Roman soldiers roaming around, or Knights of the Round Table. Why the %$#! do people like to dress like the Nazis?

As you know they killed Millions of people, and neo-Nazis still emulate them. If nothing else I hope I have made you aware that we are at war and neo-Nazis are our enemy. These people are violent, they are out there, they are in SL, and we cannot go around giving people lie detector tests to see if they are really racist or just like to dress like one. If you’re not a Nazi, you don’t want to be treated like a Nazi, don’t dress like one. If you put on a military uniform be prepared for war, and remember you are coming in on the losing side.

Minova wrote a comment on August 8, 2008
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Not sure why I’m allowing myself to get drawn in here, but I can’t stop myself. A guy I knew in highschool (back in the 1980s) used to dress as a skinhead simply because he liked the fashion style. He was not a racist or a believer in right-wing philosophy, but he was definitely seen to be a fascist / racist based on his choices. Not a choice *I* would have made, but he was willing to take the hit socially.

Similarly, I think someone who wears Nazi regalia in SL may well get tarred with a racist brush, but that is a risk they take.

Although I agree with Brandon on some points, (and I do know my WW2 history and would happily smack a Holocaust denier with a shovel), I think that even though the visual style of the Reich represents a truly frightening mindset, one cannot just write it off and say evil = ugly. The Nazis were masters of propaganda, and that did go hand in hand with a visual flair. “Triumph of the Will” is pretty terrifying on a social level, but visually it is stunning - part of its power came from the artistry of the cinematography.

So, will you see me wearing a black trenchcoat and a Herman Goering baton in RL or SL? Never. But if someone else opts to do so, they may. They must understand, however, that they may be judged VERY harshly for doing so.

And it would drive me nuts if a person wearing such garb didn’t know their history, but in this case, I get the distinct impression that Vint knows hers.

Ricci Beebe wrote a comment on August 8, 2008
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Brandon - I don’t think we will ever understand a person’s fascination with guns and military uniform, particularly this vile nazi regalia. I don’t believe that someone who chooses to dress as a nazi could possibly NOT be a racist idiot unless they are just so naive and apolitical that they cannot comprehend the image they are promoting… Maybe if child molestors wore a ‘cool’ uniform these people would choose it too…

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 9, 2008
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I don’t see people walking around as American GIs, or French resistence fighters. No Roman soldiers roaming around, or Knights of the Round Table. Why the %$#! do people like to dress like the Nazis?

You should leave the rock you’ve been living under sometime.

Roman soldiers, knights of the round table, American GIs, Jihadis - I’ve seen them all in Second Life.

Outside of that, Vint has said everything that needed to be said, but I’d like to add one thing.

Stop making yourself out to be the eternal victim. Every ethnic group in history has been hated and attacked - you guys are not special. And I doubt you personally were in a WWII concentration camp anyway.

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 9, 2008
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Not sure why I’m allowing myself to get drawn in here, but I can’t stop myself. A guy I knew in highschool (back in the 1980s) used to dress as a skinhead simply because he liked the fashion style. He was not a racist or a believer in right-wing philosophy, but he was definitely seen to be a fascist / racist based on his choices. Not a choice *I* would have made, but he was willing to take the hit socially.

Skinhead is completely separate from hate and right-wing. That’s like saying everyone who has long hair is a nazi because there are a couple of extreme metal bands that play NSBM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinheads_Against_Racial_Prejudice

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 9, 2008
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Ok Vint, sorry for spamming your comments. I just caught something else I missed. This is a topic that means much to me, so :P

These people are violent, they are out there, they are in SL, and we cannot go around giving people lie detector tests to see if they are really racist or just like to dress like one.

Dressed like a racist is extremely subjective. I have a flemish lion on one arm, a thor’s hammer on the other arm. To some idiots, those symbols are symbols of hate. Anyone with half a brain does not classify them as racist, but I’ve still seen them pop up on many antifa and other left-wing scum websites with comments like: “I wuz vizitingz Stormfront yezturdayz & I sawz a thor’z hammah! Tha muz mean every1 wiv thor’s hammah is racist! Burn da fuckz!”

Then you got the example of skinheads, which I already just brought up a comment earlier.

By judging people to be a racist by your standards simply for their way of dress - YOU’re the one judging people, not me.

But don’t worry, if you’re up for starting a war, I’ll be waiting. As we say here: Vreedzaam, maar weerbaar. Or in English: Peaceful, but able-bodied.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 9, 2008
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errr…. *coughs* left-wing scum?! *coughs* *grabs for her Luger* *attaches Luger* *searches for Daman Tenk* *TPs* *draws gun* … :D

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 9, 2008
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Ok. I could have said that more diplomatically I guess. But in my defense I mostly use the term when referring to the extremists. Antifa, squatters, stalinists, … I have little problem with the greens on the other hand.

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 9, 2008
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@Damen
First off troll, don’t threaten me. You’re sitting safely behind your keyboard. You’re not going to go out of your house today and tell some guy to his face how you’re ready for war. “Hey buddy you better watch out cuz I’m ABLE-BODIED! (/me laughs).

I’ve dived into many a pit and known lots and lots of Skinheads of all different stripes and personaly don’t associate them with Nazism as much as others might. But they know the risk they are taking shaving their head and wearing Docs. It is not the responsibility of someone else to ‘look past’ how you dress, and it is dumb to expect them to. You can dress plainly or you can work to project the image you want others to see. Nobody is going to for you to be a Skinhead.

I’ve never heard anything about how Norse gods represent racism, but if you have the why’d you get the tattoo? That’s your own stupidity.

The style of dress Vint is displaying here is called Nazi chic. I’ve yet to hear of Roman warrior chic or King Arthor chic. Yes people have all kinds of cook avs in SL but you don’t see people walking around in KKK uniforms do you? (If you do report it to LL and then IM me and the person will be permanently banned.)
I am insulted you would use such a petty trick as to divert the subject away from Nazism by saying Jews are playing the victim card. That’s not gonna work on me bud. If you’ve run out of arguments then maybe its time to shut your yapper.

If you’re going to insult and threaten people be a man and do it in RL.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 9, 2008
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*Feels the need to point out that a lot of people walk around in RL camouflage print, bought second handed from army staff, or even first handed, if army has to much of it.*

So Roman and King Arthur, no. USA, .be, Israel, and all army colours you can probably imagine are out there on the streets. And you probably also know why the Austria ones are most wanted, right? :D

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 9, 2008
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Full army dress? As in medals, helmet/officers cap, patches? No, I’ve not seen that. Wearing camo is not a uniform any more than a girl wearing makeup is war paint. I have a couple militaira items, but nobody is going to mistake me for a real soldier when wearing them. Oh, and BTW, if I were going to a place where it offended people to wear those things I would wear something else.

I hadn’t heard that Austrian military gear was wanted by anyone. So the answer to your question is no.

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 9, 2008
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If you’re going to insult and threaten people be a man and do it in RL.

The only threats in these comments come from you. You were the one threatening violence against anyone who by your idiotic reasonings is racist - even if they aren’t.

I merely said I’m ready to face your threats if you’re man enough to go through with them.

As far as calling me a troll - if that’s the best way you can discount my opinions, fuck off.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 11, 2008
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@Daman, I think if you’d take a look at my background & current personality, you’d be highly disappointed. :d (Although I do not agree with Antifa’s taste - or dislikes - in music. ;)) (should check these out, rather kewl, although no metal ;))

@Brandon, you clearly do not attent the right conventions. You might want to go preach at one of those. Of course you can’t do that from the comfort of your desk chair, but you’ll reach a hell lot of more peepz. ;) As for the Austrian camouflage patterns, clearly my knowledge on nazi chique is better than yours.

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 11, 2008
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It’s pretty good musically :) And metal is only my favourite genre, not my only one. I always liked industrial, darkwave, ambient, RaC (I guess it falls under punk musically, but don’t want to give the wrong idea), neo-folk. A bit experimenting with music is always interesting.

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 11, 2008
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And just as a litte side-note, and while I may be fulminating against anything left-wing; as long as it’s not the anti kind I don’t mind too much. I have a couple commie friends irl as well, as long as we don’t discuss politics and as long as they don’t try to burn the Flemish flag hanging out of my window, we get along well. I apologise if you feel personally attacked.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 11, 2008
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First left-wing scum and now a commi? When can we meet? Damage enabled sim, choose thy weapons! (But Miss Ordinal has some great duelling guns) If need be, I choose Zoe Connolly as a secondant* (if she accepts).

* Don’t know how this translates to English.

PS. You can bring the croissants then. :D

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 13, 2008
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I don’t know what conventions you’re talking about, but if you don’t like people preaching to you here’s a novel idea: don’t wear the clothes of murderers.

Being well-versed on Nazi chic is not something I would admit to.

It is interesting to me, that after the controversy on your blog about this you still see nothing wrong with dressing in the last uniforms seen by over a million children as they were forced into a gas chamber naked and many without their parents. It is one thing to kill people, but to kill them in that way, and to mercilessly kill children like cockroaches. This doesn’t even phase you does it?

So if you think you are a good person, and you don’t even have compassion for innocent children being systematically killed I can’t imagine you think there is such thing as a bad person. That means you have no conscious.

I don’t go preaching to people for no reason, in fact you have to be pretty extreme for me to pay any attention to you at all. And the only thing I want is for people to have some empathy for 6 million people. But that is too much to ask from selfish people like you. What do you care how many people it upsets right? And then you are surprised when people have a problem with it.

I wish I could say there would be consequences for you - you won’t go to heaven, burn in a lake of fire, get your food stamps revoked, I don’t know, but I can’t. I do, however, believe in some level of karma, and I can say for certain posting pictures of your avatar in Nazi clothes does not produce good karma.

Do I feel superior to you? You bet. And you know why? Because I stand for something, and it isn’t my own personal gain or desire. I am willing to risk my reputation and my personal safety for my convictions. I am willing to put long hours into working towards an end to everything the Nazis brought into this world once and for all. And the reason I do it is because of the stories of a survivor of the Holocaust and how much it affected me when I took the time to listen and tried to place myself in his shoes. When I did that it made me realize how evil these people really were and I vowed not to stand silent ever again.

So yeah, I’ll preach, and I won’t apologize one bit.

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 13, 2008
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Hun, you should stop judging people you don’t know on one sole issue. Really. I’m glad your concerned about my karma, and yes indeed, my Plurk karma is dropping steadily. But I don’t think my sense of fashion is to blame. As for my RL karma, I’m rather ok’ish with that. Definitely doing some constructive things for other people, but I’m a bit worried about yours, I must admit. Those who only preach but don’t do shit are rumoured to return as the irritating buzzing mosquito’s that they are.

I final time, I’m do feel sorry for what happened to those children. And as most of my RL friends, I’m doing what I can - no, I’m not waging RL war - to offer a few children in this current world a better chance on the future. Those who know me - choose to know me, in stead of just judging, hun - might agree to that. ;)

Do I feel superior to you? You bet. And you know why? Because I stand for something, and it isn’t my own personal gain or desire. That’s where you’re mistaken. If you feel superior, you don’t listen to others. You are wrong, and the rest of the world is right. Could that be why the nazi’s did not hear the screams of those millions of children murdered? Because they believed in their own truth so much? In their own righteousness, just like you’re doing now? They had the right to murder millions of jews. Why? Because they figured themselves to be the superior race. Now that’s a dangerous world you’re using, Herr Catteneo, making you far more a nazi then I’ll - despite the right attire - ever be.

I am willing to risk my reputation and my personal safety for my convictions. Here you talking like a grown up boy. Yes, I’m sure your personal safety is in danger.. your desk chair might be flipping over. As for those insane conditions you need to do Your work in, I’m sure you have airco, no? Or are you there on the streets, in Brazil, in Africa, or even in the poorer neighbourhoods of your own country, where currently suffering childs could use your support? I don’t think so. Please, don’t let me force you to put your reputation and personal safety at risk. I’m not worth it, as you’re so superior anyway. Really, go write something - you think is - constructive on your own blog, but stop whining on mine. I know you love to read yourself type…

The only thing you’ve accomplished is that I really feel the urge to get that my lovely outfit here out of the dust of my inventory where it has been for … let’s see… more than a year now. I’ll dedicate the snapshot to you, hun! =)

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 13, 2008
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Oh have I upset you? Hitting a little too close to home, eh?

Your snide remarks are understandable. I’d feel the same way if I were you. The fact is, I’m not saying anything you don’t already know, which is why you are lashing out. The truth hurts. If taking more picture of yourself in Nazi clothes makes you feel better then you have no right to be upset about me exposing you for what you are now do you? Please, take some more pictures, prove me right.

You want to know about me do you? OK, you asked so I will tell you: I’ve done charity work all my life. I’ve helped drug addicts get into re-habs, I’ve taken food in the middle of the night to homeless vets (a certain number of which freeze to death every year), I’ve helped build houses for the homeless, I have volunteered to work with mental patients to try to get them good medical care when nobody else gave a damn. In fact I even saved 2 people’s lives. I have done way more than my share to make up for the crap people like you bring into this world.

And BTW, my family all does so as well. My brother has worked with kids from the worst ghettos of DC, he went to Africa on an aid mission. My mom volunteers at youth camps and take groups of kids on some kind of trips - I’m not sure what, but I know it’s volunteer work. Oh and did I mention both she and I worked second jobs for several years running after-hours programs in the slums so Jr. High kids had a place to play basketball rather than shoot each other?

As far as putting myself at risk I’ve had a gun put to my head more than once. I’ve been attacked by deranged mental people. I was beat up by the police on one occasion. At 2:00 AM you do not want to be taking food to homeless people under the Anacostia Bridge in Washington, DC the so-called “murder capital”. If G-d’s will is that I die trying to save a life, so be it!

So what about you? What have you done that makes you think you are my equal? No one life of a human being is worth more than another, but the worth of a soul is determined by good and bad actions that make the world a better (or worse) place for everyone. What’s yours worth?

The truth is Vint some people really are superior to you because of what they have done with their lives that you have not done. (Bet that stung.) Sooner or later you’re bound to run into one.

Normally I wouldn’t point that out, but I think you deserve some perspective. You’ve got all these people on your blog and FLIKR telling you want you want to hear. Isn’t it nice to hear something real now and again?

You’d never even consider putting a swastika on your body if deep down inside you weren’t a rotten person. So you’ve got people exposing you. You’ve got no one to blame but yourself. If it makes you feel better to get mad at me that’s just fine by me. Doesn’t change a thing.

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 13, 2008
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BTW, shouldn’t Nazi chic be one of your categories?

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 13, 2008
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No one life of a human being is worth more than another

This is what I find endlessly amusing - coming from you that is.

Tell me - do you yell at people when they wear the hammer and sickle or claim they are communists? Or do you just take on the swastika because it’s an easier fight?

You do realise that the low estimates for Stalin’s gulag camps were 20 million dead, the high estimates 60 million dead.

That’s between 3 and 10 times the amount of people killed in the holocoust.

So if you are so perfect, and defending every equal life - why not do something about the hammer and sickle? Or is a jew’s life really worth 3-10 times the life of a goyim?

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 14, 2008
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Anyone who adorns themselves in Communist markings is showing they’ve either got the IQ of a houseplant or the moral virtue of a viper. ~100 Million people were murdered by Communists during the 20th century.

I learned that reading The Black Book of Communism which is 757 pages long. Not exactly a quick read. I’m not saying I didn’t skip any parts, but I read a lot of it. In fact I have my copy sitting right on my bookshelf. How many books do you own on the horrors of Communism?

I’ll face your implication head-on though: Would I have allied myself with Stalin to fight Hitler? Yes, I think it was the right decision. And directly after WWII I would have gone after the Commies just like we did.

Generally speaking, Stalin killed for power while Hitler killed out of racism. Even as bombs were falling on Berlin Hitler ordered the extermination camps to continue killing as many Jews as possible. Valuable military assets that could have been used to defend Berlin stayed in Poland just so they could keep killing Jews. You can fight someone who wans power, but fighting someone like Hitler who was willing to destroy himself just to kill a few more non-combatants is a whole other animal.

Hitler actually struck a deal with the Arabs in the Middle East to help them kill off every last Jew after the war. He even gave them chemical weapons - which they employed. This was before Israel was a state of course, and the Holy Land had no particular military significance at that time.

In any case, there is nothing wrong with picking your battles. In fact, as a leader myself I am expected to not waste resources. People have asked me the same thing about the FN and my stance is yes they are evil, no I don’t like them in SL one bit but are a major political party with a strong following. The French parties who have millions of followers are having trouble with them and certainly a small organization in SL is no match for them. When and if we gain the support to take them out I’ll put them six feet deep.

A good student of military tactics knows the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I wouldn’t sell my soul for it but I would certainly join forces with an enemy to destroy another. It’s the intelligent thing to do - unless you have unlimited resources of course. I will never tell a Communist that whta he believes is anything but stupid or evil, but if he came to me and said he’s got info on a Nazi I’ll take what ammo I can get.

What about you? I saw you ranting about leftists on your blog. What are you doing about your beliefs? Anything real or just childishly lashing out?

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 14, 2008
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BTW, a lot more people died because of the Nazis than Stalin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

That doesn’t change the moral rationale, but just so you get your facts straight.

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 14, 2008
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That link you posted says 72 million died in WWII altogether. Not how many of those deaths are attributable to Hitler. I also think you just said 100 million people died through Stalin. So it seems you’re confused.

@ Would I have allied myself with Stalin to fight Hitler? Yes, I think it was the right decision.

And that is where I disagree. Coming from the other side - I would never ally myself with Hitler to fight Stalin. My grandfather did that, but I think it was wrong to work with Hitler at all, even if it meant getting the chance to kill some communists.

@ I wouldn’t sell my soul for it but I would certainly join forces with an enemy to destroy another.

If anything, I would watch them simply fight each other. Destroying my enemies is important to me, but not more important than my honour and loyalty.

As for what I do about my beliefs. I volunteer in non-profit organisations and in local politics. I’ve also joined in with several direct actions against the left.

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 14, 2008
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Go back and re-read my post. You obviously didn’t do so the first time.

Quote: I also think you just said 100 million people died through Stalin. So it seems you’re confused.

I said “~100 Million people were murdered by Communists during the 20th century.” That includes Mao, Pol Pot, etc. Mao Zedong murdered 65M people, which makes him both the primary contributor to Communist atrocities and the worst mass murderer in history.

Quote: That link you posted says 72 million died in WWII altogether. Not how many of those deaths are attributable to Hitler.

Suggesting, in any way, that Hitler was not 100% responsible for all deaths in WWII is pure BS. Hitler instigated the German people, convinced Italy and Japan that they could meet their objectives through war, broke treaties, and more to the point it was all his master plan.

Quote: Coming from the other side - I would never ally myself with Hitler to fight Stalin.

That is the whole point od what I am trying to say by posting here. The Nazis were a special kind of evil - not limited to either warfare or conquest. Not even total power over Europe or even the World would suffice so long as one Jew remained alive. (And I think we all know Jews weren’t going to be his last targets for genocide if the 3rd Reich did last 1000 years as he had hoped.)

Quote:If anything, I would watch them simply fight each other. Destroying my enemies is important to me, but not more important than my honour and loyalty.

If that were possible - duh. But in a case when you are under attack and you have a common enemy the smart, wise, and honorable thing to do is to join forces and eliminate the greatest threat. Failure is not honorable and neither is killing off scores of your own troops. The best case scenario is a proxy war where your enemy is doing most of the fighting for you. As a commander your responsibility is to the fathers and brothers of your citzenry that serve under you. Your job is to win the battle and get them home safely to their homes. Otherwise WTF are you fighting for in the first place?

Volunteering to promote your own political interests is not unselfish or charitable work. If you are volunteering to serve the political interests of (for instance) the Tibetans that would be unselfish (assuming you are American). Not that there is anything wrong with with that but it isn’t charity work.

I am interested to know what you mean by “joined in with several direct actions against the left”.

BTW, could you please differentiate my quotes from your rants on your blog? I wouldn’t say that hre except that your name links to the blog, which discusses this post (and calls me a “human turd”, I thought that was creative).

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 14, 2008
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I said “~100 Million people were murdered by Communists during the 20th century.”

Fair enough. I can agree with those numbers.

Suggesting, in any way, that Hitler was not 100% responsible for all deaths in WWII is pure BS.

It’s not BS. May I remind you that the United Kingdom, the British colonies and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around?

To wage war you need to be with two sides. What is pure BS is blaming one side for the entire war. But I guess that’s typical history being written by the victors again.

That is the whole point od what I am trying to say by posting here. The Nazis were a special kind of evil

And you missed my point. The reason I turned the roles around was because I hate the communists more than the nazis. Yes - the nazis were evil. But to claim they’re the most evil beings that ever existed is a laughable Judeo-christian point of view.

I would not join the nazis to fight the communists like many of my countrymen did, but neither would I join the communists to fight the nazis - that option I would never even consider.

Volunteering to promote your own political interests is not unselfish or charitable work.

By what you just said, can I interpret that a Jew volunteering for Jewish interests is not being unselfish or charitable?

Now about myself. That’s why I mentioned non-profit AND politics. I don’t know where in the world non-profit means political. Non-profit organisations here are for example Oxfam - which helps the third world, not my own interests. I spend many hours in the rain and cold canvassing.

My politic engagement also goes further than my own country as well - it doesn’t matter to me if we’re talking about Karelia, Tibet or my own nation Flanders (or a whole slew of other places) - I get involved in local actions anytime a sovereign nation is occupied/oppressed by totalitarian centralist governments.

Those actions include anything from counter-demonstrations to smallscale actions outside an embassy to benefit happenings, I’ve been involved in some things since I’ve been 18, so I’ve acted in many different ways.

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 14, 2008
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The Nazis were not the cause of WWII? They waged a war of aggresion, not self-defense and not in defense of their allies. Not only did the countries they attacked not want war, but they were willing to give all manner of concessions to prevent it. If the Nazis did not attack there would have been no WWII. Blaming the Allies for self-defense is, as I said earlier, utter BS. TRYING to say the Nazis were just another gang of thugs is also BS. No where in history was the methodical use of planning and technology employed against an entire race.

If you cannot understand why the Holocaust was so heinious then you just don’t want to and no amount of convincing would work. You do not do what the Nazis did and maintain your humanity. If you do not see or will not see why they were monsters you have a moral deficiency which is something no Internet discussion will correct. With all due respect to your parents they did a terrible job.

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on August 14, 2008
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I have told you a dozen times already that I find the holocaust and Hitler deplorable. But to claim it’s the worst thing mankind ever did is exaggerating.

Ally self-defense is idiotic. Self-defense would mean they were attacked. They were not. Poland was attacked - Britain and France interfered. I’m not saying they were wrong in what they did, but to claim they are not at least partially responsible for some of the deaths is again seeing the world in shades of pure black and white. That’s not reality.

Feel free to continue on your moral high horse though.

Nasr Hanif wrote a comment on August 15, 2008
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Pompous, self-indulgent and boring. Sitting in comfortable rooms vicariously suffering when the worst thing that’s happened is a splinter in the finger. It’s an insult to the people who actually did suffer under Nazi and Communist persecution.
I fear I’ll have to forego Signor Catteneo’s kind offer of fraternity. I have some real brothers of my own.

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 16, 2008
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@Daman

Ally self-defense is idiotic. Self-defense would mean they were attacked. They were not.

Um, no, you do not have to wait to be attacked to defend yourself. That’s a good way to get killed. You have to be under threat of harm. As far as defending your allies, if they get attacked and you do not come to their aid you are a traitor. I don’t know about people from Flanders, but Americans aren’t traitors.

Furthermore, Germany broke the Treaty of Versailles, lest you forget. In itself that was an act of war.

Defending themselves against unjustified, unilateral aggression makes them not only aggressors, but responsible for the deaths of millions of people; that’s your version of reality? So in your version of reality if they had allowed Germany to roll through Europe and take whatever they wanted their hands would be clean? Allow the Germans to kill all the Jews, gays, political dissidents, Gypsies, and race traitors (Aryans who had sex with non-Aryans) and their hands would be clean? I’m glad the people of that time did not live in your version of reality because we’d all be speaking German right now. Well, not me - I’d be dead.

@Nasr

Since you did not read it the first time I’ll repost this:

I’ve done charity work all my life. I’ve helped drug addicts get into re-habs, I’ve taken food in the middle of the night to homeless vets (a certain number of which freeze to death every year), I’ve helped build houses for the homeless, I have volunteered to work with mental patients to try to get them good medical care when nobody else gave a damn. In fact I even saved 2 people’s lives. I have done way more than my share to make up for the crap people like you bring into this world.

As far as putting myself at risk I’ve had a gun put to my head more than once. I’ve been attacked by deranged mental people. I was beat up by the police on one occasion. At 2:00 AM you do not want to be taking food to homeless people under the Anacostia Bridge in Washington, DC the so-called “murder capital”. If G-d’s will is that I die trying to save a life, so be it!

So, splinters notwithstanding, what have you done to earn the air you breath?

I fear I’ll have to forego Signor Catteneo’s kind offer of fraternity.

Now that’s entertainment.

Oh no! Surely my life will be incomplete without the honor of your friendship. Whoa is me! Whoa is me! Life will be so meaningless now. How can I go on?

Vint Falken wrote a comment on August 16, 2008
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Suggestion, continue to go do were you devoted your whole live to and return to it: the streets (2). Stop whining. Stop preaching. Stop thinking you’re superior. It will definitely not get you into Heaven. There’s something about having to much an ego and thinking you’re always right that God dislikes. I think our Holy Bible refers to it as ‘internet troll’, although I’m not completely sure on the terminology (and correct translation from old Greek to English).

Brandon Catteneo wrote a comment on August 16, 2008
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Thous shalt not troll? It must’ve been on the 3rd tablet.

True humility is knowing your place, which means that obviously you have to be above someone, unless you are the lowest scum on Earth. Am I better than a rapist,a murderer, a child molester? Yes, I believe I am. On the other hand Ghandi was a better man than I. I know it is politically incorrect, but that doesn’t make it untrue.

What about you? Are you equivalent to, say, a child molester?

Ben Willis wrote a comment on September 19, 2008
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*sighs* Brandon, don’t you see how much hate you spit and how much you make people dislike you by doing that?
The JDL is nothing but a bunch of facists, you see one thing, ’swastika = nazi = evil’ without going any more in depth to that.
By being such an over zealous retard when someone wears a uniform, do you realize that incites people to do it on purpose to annoy you?
I’d like to know your thoughts on the firebombing of French towns during the war by US and British forces, tons that had no military objective and murdered millions. what are your feelings on Stalin, killer of his own people and millions of Jews? Or was it just the way it was done that upsets you? How do you feel about being evil bastards in the Middle East, anytime someone flings a stone, the Jews rev up a tank brigade and mow down some turf?

You’re using the ‘nazi excuse’ to make yourself seem so downtrodden and oppressed and back it up with thee ‘if we ignore it, it’ll happen again’…so what about Darfur? If that slogan is so right, why has the US not begun executing Das Juden?

Ben Willis wrote a comment on September 19, 2008
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By the way, what about Russia? When do we start throwing hate at them for invading Poland first? Oh wait, Germany matters more, Russia was one of the ‘good guys’ during the war…well, after their break up with Germany…that’s right, Germany and Russia were allies, and Russia invaded first, no one said a word

Ben Willis wrote a comment on September 19, 2008
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Actually, Germany wanted it’s regions back, Poland, Check, the rhineland and so on…it wasn’t till France and Britain declared war that germany pushed against them. Had they not, Germany would have kept to herself. All Hitler did was infuriate the people against the sanctions and the blame for WWI the victors laid on Germany. Broken, bankrupt, in debt, failing economy, Hitler used it all to gain a foothold and then take the reins. So technically, you can blame those precious good guys from WWI for the whole ordeal.

Ben Willis wrote a comment on September 20, 2008
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oh, last though, the furzi were not banned, the group lives on, the name was changed, and the only time Spotz had the ‘heat’ on him was when you nutters went all 3 year old over nazi stuff no one knew existed till you gave him so much publicity…friggen tools, all of the JDL and their brown nosers

Ben Willis wrote a comment on September 20, 2008
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I know he claims not to be anti-Semitic but that means he isn’t because he says so? I guarantee he is. And while it may or may not be provable what is in his heart but it is a provable fact that as I said he did lie to you, and you can verify it on my blog

And how long have you hung around him? I was there when the beginning of that crap storm happened, and most of it, not all of it, but most of it was the JDL and other supporters of it griefing, being mean and spamming Triphosa. Spotz is a good guy, i’ve been around him alot, he’s normally quiet, and yes, it’s an interest, he’s not racist nor a nazi, the only reason you think he is is because you have him pegged as such. The majority of the reason he does some things is to piss people like you off because you’re a nut and need to calm down.

Brandon Lindman wrote a comment on October 25, 2008
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http://www.jdlsl.com/SLAH.html

That link is the final report on the activities of your friends the Furzis. As you will see, the fact that they are virulently anti-Semitic and racist is indisputable.

One has been arrested in RL. Spotz has been permanently banned, along with several others. All objects in Das Waffenamt were deleted by Linden Lab, including the Nazis uniforms. Rainbow Pirandello ended up weeping and depressed. She was pleading Linden Lab to unban her boyfriend “He is my everything. Please unban him.” For the rest of my life I will never forget how pitiful and dejected they looked.

If you went there today, you could not purchase what you are wearing in your picture. Vint, you will be the last “Neko of the Reich”.

I told you these were bad people. I considered including your avatar in the ban, but decided you are guilty of only ignorance. Nevertheless, the fact that you were duped should tell you something.

I hope you can see this for what it is: A rejection of the glorification of Nazism. It’s not just Jews that are extremely offended when we see a swastika or a totenkopf. For anyone with an understanding of the Holocaust these are evil symbols that represent death and war. When you wear them you become part of that picture.

@Ben, Damen: Make no mistake: we will never stop hunting Nazis. So long as you exist the war is not over. It would be an insult to the 6 Million if we did, and we couldn’t look ourselves in the mirror if we allowed the heinous nature of the Nazis’ atrocities to be minimized.

This isn’t a game, it’s not a joke, it’s not a passing thought. Many of us will devote every minute of our free time to making absolutely sure nobody EVER forgets the pain and suffering of the Holocaust.

Not that I care what you think about me, but just so you what drives me to disdain anyone who pins a swastika on themselves is the 1 Million children that were murdered in cold blood. I clear my mind and put myself in the place of a 7 yr old boy separated from his parents, shivering naked in the freezing cold of Poland, surrounded by barbed wire and men with machine guns and jack boots. I’m scared and I’m crying and so are some of the other kids. I don’t know why this is happening. All I can think is I want my mom and dad. I look up and see a swastika, not really understanding what it means but knowing it is the symbol of the horror I am in. It is the last thing I see before I die.

That boy might have been me if I were born in 1933. He was powerless and afraid. I am not.

If you or anyone spits on his grave we will make you cry like a scared 7yr old boy. We will spend thousands of dollars. We will use every tool at our disposal. We will give those who do not give a damn about the scared and powerless little boys and girls herded into the gas chambers find out what it means to be powerless. You will be angry and afraid. We will make you miserable.

And speaking of 7yr old boys, authorities are now investigating some of these people for downloading child porn.

Nazi furs be warned: Stay in the sewers like the vermin you are. Scurry away from the light. Hide as best you can. Cry to each other about the unfairness of it all. Stroke each other’s ego and lulz at your pedo 4chan posters (oh yes, we know about that too). Your stupidity will be surpassed only by your regret.

@Samantha Poindexter: You may be Jewish or not, but you are naive at best and probably anti-Semitic. Being Jewish neither prevents or gives you the right to promote hatred against Jews, and by defending these people that’s exactly what you did. Consider yourself no longer in good standing. I want you to picture your Rabbi or your parents getting a copy of the SLAH Report with your above comments stapled to it. Suddenly your self-righteous attitude recedes as the shame washes over you. You can’t look them in the eye. You know they won’t look at you in the same way for a long, long time. If you really are Jewish it’s a shonda you defending these people.

- Brandon Lindman (formerly Brandon Catteneo)

Daman Tenk wrote a comment on October 25, 2008
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Good Brandon, be proud of the little fascist totalitarian state you are aiding the creation of.

In the meanwhile, there will be people who fight the real enemies of freedom. Don’t think I give up.

Brandon Lindman wrote a comment on October 26, 2008
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You can’t use a document that says “All men are created equal” to justify racism. lulz

I guess you didn’t really think that one through.

“A good Jew is a dead Jew” or “Zykloning a Jew would be the greatest day of our lives” isn’t protected under the 1st Amendment - no incitement to violence is. Political statements and artistic expression are protected. That’s not a political statement. That’s not artistic expression.

But perhaps you think it should? Maybe your concept of a free society is that words, no matter how heinous, no matter what the outcome of their use, should have the protection of Federal law? You proclaim words are just words. Right? That’s your argument? Well the law you want us to live under includes mobs with pitchforks and hooded men burning crosses. The blacks, the Jews, the minorities, the immigrants aren’t free in your great democratic vision. You aren’t fighting for our freedom, you are fighting for your “right” to intimidate minorities so you can put them back in their ‘place’. Fail.

Now that we have publicly exposed your “history buff” lie you can’t even pretend not to be racist. So you try to convince people it’s your right to be a racist bastards? It’s your right to promote hatred of someone because they are a different color or have a different culture? It’s your right to call for genocide and violence and murder? Heh.

Thank you! Thank you for giving me the opportunity to show everyone how you people think. Maybe now we will have less trouble making people see what the truth is without having to publish a 65 page document.

Know what? You people have no honor and you should be ashamed of it. Shame on you for being liars. Shame on you for being racists. And shame on you for wrapping your hatred in the American flag!

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