True humility is knowing your place, which means that obviously you have to be above someone, unless you are the lowest scum on Earth. Am I better than a rapist,a murderer, a child molester? Yes, I believe I am. On the other hand Ghandi was a better man than I. I know it is politically incorrect, but that doesn’t make it untrue.

What about you? Are you equivalent to, say, a child molester?

Ally self-defense is idiotic. Self-defense would mean they were attacked. They were not.

Um, no, you do not have to wait to be attacked to defend yourself. That’s a good way to get killed. You have to be under threat of harm. As far as defending your allies, if they get attacked and you do not come to their aid you are a traitor. I don’t know about people from Flanders, but Americans aren’t traitors.

Furthermore, Germany broke the Treaty of Versailles, lest you forget. In itself that was an act of war.

Defending themselves against unjustified, unilateral aggression makes them not only aggressors, but responsible for the deaths of millions of people; that’s your version of reality? So in your version of reality if they had allowed Germany to roll through Europe and take whatever they wanted their hands would be clean? Allow the Germans to kill all the Jews, gays, political dissidents, Gypsies, and race traitors (Aryans who had sex with non-Aryans) and their hands would be clean? I’m glad the people of that time did not live in your version of reality because we’d all be speaking German right now. Well, not me - I’d be dead.

@Nasr

Since you did not read it the first time I’ll repost this:

I’ve done charity work all my life. I’ve helped drug addicts get into re-habs, I’ve taken food in the middle of the night to homeless vets (a certain number of which freeze to death every year), I’ve helped build houses for the homeless, I have volunteered to work with mental patients to try to get them good medical care when nobody else gave a damn. In fact I even saved 2 people’s lives. I have done way more than my share to make up for the crap people like you bring into this world.

As far as putting myself at risk I’ve had a gun put to my head more than once. I’ve been attacked by deranged mental people. I was beat up by the police on one occasion. At 2:00 AM you do not want to be taking food to homeless people under the Anacostia Bridge in Washington, DC the so-called “murder capital”. If G-d’s will is that I die trying to save a life, so be it!

So, splinters notwithstanding, what have you done to earn the air you breath?

I fear I’ll have to forego Signor Catteneo’s kind offer of fraternity.

Now that’s entertainment.

Oh no! Surely my life will be incomplete without the honor of your friendship. Whoa is me! Whoa is me! Life will be so meaningless now. How can I go on?

Ally self-defense is idiotic. Self-defense would mean they were attacked. They were not. Poland was attacked - Britain and France interfered. I’m not saying they were wrong in what they did, but to claim they are not at least partially responsible for some of the deaths is again seeing the world in shades of pure black and white. That’s not reality.

Feel free to continue on your moral high horse though.

If you cannot understand why the Holocaust was so heinious then you just don’t want to and no amount of convincing would work. You do not do what the Nazis did and maintain your humanity. If you do not see or will not see why they were monsters you have a moral deficiency which is something no Internet discussion will correct. With all due respect to your parents they did a terrible job.

I said “~100 Million people were murdered by Communists during the 20th century.”

Fair enough. I can agree with those numbers.

Suggesting, in any way, that Hitler was not 100% responsible for all deaths in WWII is pure BS.

It’s not BS. May I remind you that the United Kingdom, the British colonies and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around?

To wage war you need to be with two sides. What is pure BS is blaming one side for the entire war. But I guess that’s typical history being written by the victors again.

That is the whole point od what I am trying to say by posting here. The Nazis were a special kind of evil

And you missed my point. The reason I turned the roles around was because I hate the communists more than the nazis. Yes - the nazis were evil. But to claim they’re the most evil beings that ever existed is a laughable Judeo-christian point of view.

I would not join the nazis to fight the communists like many of my countrymen did, but neither would I join the communists to fight the nazis - that option I would never even consider.

Volunteering to promote your own political interests is not unselfish or charitable work.

By what you just said, can I interpret that a Jew volunteering for Jewish interests is not being unselfish or charitable?

Now about myself. That’s why I mentioned non-profit AND politics. I don’t know where in the world non-profit means political. Non-profit organisations here are for example Oxfam - which helps the third world, not my own interests. I spend many hours in the rain and cold canvassing.

My politic engagement also goes further than my own country as well - it doesn’t matter to me if we’re talking about Karelia, Tibet or my own nation Flanders (or a whole slew of other places) - I get involved in local actions anytime a sovereign nation is occupied/oppressed by totalitarian centralist governments.

Those actions include anything from counter-demonstrations to smallscale actions outside an embassy to benefit happenings, I’ve been involved in some things since I’ve been 18, so I’ve acted in many different ways.

Quote: I also think you just said 100 million people died through Stalin. So it seems you’re confused.

I said “~100 Million people were murdered by Communists during the 20th century.” That includes Mao, Pol Pot, etc. Mao Zedong murdered 65M people, which makes him both the primary contributor to Communist atrocities and the worst mass murderer in history.

Quote: That link you posted says 72 million died in WWII altogether. Not how many of those deaths are attributable to Hitler.

Suggesting, in any way, that Hitler was not 100% responsible for all deaths in WWII is pure BS. Hitler instigated the German people, convinced Italy and Japan that they could meet their objectives through war, broke treaties, and more to the point it was all his master plan.

Quote: Coming from the other side - I would never ally myself with Hitler to fight Stalin.

That is the whole point od what I am trying to say by posting here. The Nazis were a special kind of evil - not limited to either warfare or conquest. Not even total power over Europe or even the World would suffice so long as one Jew remained alive. (And I think we all know Jews weren’t going to be his last targets for genocide if the 3rd Reich did last 1000 years as he had hoped.)

Quote:If anything, I would watch them simply fight each other. Destroying my enemies is important to me, but not more important than my honour and loyalty.

If that were possible - duh. But in a case when you are under attack and you have a common enemy the smart, wise, and honorable thing to do is to join forces and eliminate the greatest threat. Failure is not honorable and neither is killing off scores of your own troops. The best case scenario is a proxy war where your enemy is doing most of the fighting for you. As a commander your responsibility is to the fathers and brothers of your citzenry that serve under you. Your job is to win the battle and get them home safely to their homes. Otherwise WTF are you fighting for in the first place?

Volunteering to promote your own political interests is not unselfish or charitable work. If you are volunteering to serve the political interests of (for instance) the Tibetans that would be unselfish (assuming you are American). Not that there is anything wrong with with that but it isn’t charity work.

I am interested to know what you mean by “joined in with several direct actions against the left”.

BTW, could you please differentiate my quotes from your rants on your blog? I wouldn’t say that hre except that your name links to the blog, which discusses this post (and calls me a “human turd”, I thought that was creative).

@ Would I have allied myself with Stalin to fight Hitler? Yes, I think it was the right decision.

And that is where I disagree. Coming from the other side - I would never ally myself with Hitler to fight Stalin. My grandfather did that, but I think it was wrong to work with Hitler at all, even if it meant getting the chance to kill some communists.

@ I wouldn’t sell my soul for it but I would certainly join forces with an enemy to destroy another.

If anything, I would watch them simply fight each other. Destroying my enemies is important to me, but not more important than my honour and loyalty.

As for what I do about my beliefs. I volunteer in non-profit organisations and in local politics. I’ve also joined in with several direct actions against the left.

That doesn’t change the moral rationale, but just so you get your facts straight.